tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10443889181239771542024-03-21T18:20:50.444-05:00Polygamy AdvocatePolygamy Advocate - Defending Torah Plural Marriage in the hope of fulfilling Yeshayahu 4:1. "And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, “We shall eat our own food and wear our own clothes; only let us be called by your name, to take away our reproach.”"OnenessSainthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08879187512309306191noreply@blogger.comBlogger67125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1044388918123977154.post-8572076414912267182013-06-25T09:39:00.001-05:002013-06-25T09:39:41.966-05:00Government is NOT the answer!<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;">Mark Henkel seeks a government-based solution to a problem caused by government. Whenever you bow at the alter of government to beg for any supposed "rights" you legitimize their authority over you. STOP PLAYING THEIR GAME!!!</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;">Rights do not come from a sheet of paper! Rights do not come from government! Rights do not come from some group of perverts sitting in Washington, D.C. figuring out the next way to fleece you and your family. Rights come from the creator. He gives the same rights to EVERY human whether you are black or white, red or yellow, Christian or Muslim, Atheist or Jew, Democrat or Republican, Israeli or Pakistani, Sudanese or American. </span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;">Only YHWH has legitimate authority to allow or forbid certain actions. </span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;">Stop bowing to the idol of government. The only real answer is to get pissed off that a small group of madmen think that they can control us. Wake up and wake up others!</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;">If tomorrow the government "decriminalized" bestiality; that wouldn't make it a marriage! </span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;">Mark Henkel's movement is focused on bowing at the alter of government instead of subjecting themselves to the King of Kings! </span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;">I don't need anyone's permission to obey my Father!</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;" /><a href="http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FlrtC7V65Sfk&h=uAQGHnIjyAQE4oSJtfYVsV0GI_BS_Hu0SuoaswM5A9H8CQA&s=1" rel="nofollow nofollow" style="background-color: white; color: #3b5998; cursor: pointer; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 17px; text-align: left; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank">http://youtu.be/lrtC7V65Sfk</a>
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only let us be called by your name, to take away our reproach.”
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saying, “We shall eat our own food and wear our own clothes;
only let us be called by your name, to take away our reproach.”
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<b style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">Authored by Hondo Solomon<br />Foreword by Yadayahu Ben Yisrael<br />Edition: 2<br /></b><span style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">The Polygamist Papers: An Introduction to Polygamous Culture and Its Principles, Pitfalls, and Ethics was drafted to ensure readers a clear and accurate understanding of polygamy's motives and practice in a modern context.</span><br style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;" /><br style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;" /><span style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">Its concise format is sourced from hundreds of discussions with polygynous men and women-including concubines and mistresses-even adult children raised in polygynous families; several families across the United States that I lived with while constructing the manuscript; and census data from the African, Indian and North American continents.</span><br style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;" /><br style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;" /><span style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">This pamphlet is the first in a series of works on polygamous family economics published by The Full Court Press. Its focus is on polygynous households consisting of one man and multiple women. The text has several purposes, namely (a) demonstrating how</span><br style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;" /><span style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">plural marriage operates on the microeconomic level, (b) highlighting the cross-cultural and international scope of polygamy, </span><sup style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif;">©</sup><span style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;"> revealing the communitarian ethic inherent within polygynous families, and most importantly, (d) uproots the mythology surrounding both</span><br style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;" /><span style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">polygamy and polyandry.</span><br style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;" /><br style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;" /><span style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">Polygynous family networks provide a grand opportunity to build an economic power base from their respective estates and requires a righteous spirit, sound mind, and a pure heart for success.</span><br style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;" /><br style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;" /><br style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;" /><div class="data_dictionary" id="book_estore_details" style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">
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<div class="blogger-post-footer">Yeshayahu 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man,
saying, “We shall eat our own food and wear our own clothes;
only let us be called by your name, to take away our reproach.”
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">The following article comes from reason4living.com. You may read the original article <a href="http://www.reason4living.com/articles/totw0041.htm" target="_blank">HERE</a>. What follows is the article with my edits (to restore true scriptural names, etc)</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">There are a lot of misconceptions about submission and submissive people. Before we can intelligently consider what scripture has to say on the subject of submissive wives we need to clear these misconceptions out of our way. Let me begin with a few simple statements about the nature of submission:</span></div>
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<li><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">Only a strong person can be submissive.</span></li>
<li><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">Submissiveness is <i>not</i> timidity, it is <i>not</i> servility, it is <i>not</i> subservience, it is <i>not</i> docility, it is <i>not</i> degrading, it is <i>not</i> a sign of weakness.</span></li>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">Submission is an act of the will — it is the result of a choice, a decision. The act of submission can only come from a choice that a person makes. Submission cannot be enforced upon a person. Either a person submits of their own free will or they do not submit at all. Submission is a gift that one person chooses to give to another person. By contrast oppression is the act of extracting something from a person against their will. Submission and oppression are, therefore, opposite qualities of a relationship and not even remotely similar.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">The submission of a good wife is a glorious thing that is intended to help her and her husband to have a contented life together. Problems in life and in marriage are more or less inevitable but when a woman is submissive to her man it is much more likely that those problems can be resolved harmoniously, without unpleasant quarrelling and without bitterness and resentment. Those people who look down on submission as if it were something demeaning, degrading or humiliating are merely showing that they have no understanding of what submission is and that they are quite ignorant of its power.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">If you are a Yisraelite wife who has been feeling uncomfortable with the scriptural demand that you submit to your husband then, I hope, these statements have perked up your interest and given you a glimpse of the bright cheerfulness ahead. Being submissive to your husband does not mean, as so many ignorant detractors of submission seem to think, that you should be an empty-headed bimbo, or that you should have no opinions of your own, or that you should be like a doormat.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">If you are a Yisraelite husband I hope that you will take care to understand the nature of submission and be careful to understand your responsibilities in response to your wife's submission to you. A submissive wife is not a justification for an abusive husband.
<span style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-size: large;">יהוה</span></span> commands men to love their wives with the same kind of love that He [<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-align: justify;">יהוה</span>] gave to his people, Yisrael ... that's a pretty tough assignment to give a mortal man and it doesn't include the possibility of abuse.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">Usually when I am asked to comment regarding the submission of wives, I find myself in a debate where somebody is trying to prove from scripture that women do not really have to submit to their husbands or obey them. In this article I will attempt to demonstrate the error in such thinking. The argument is not especially difficult but it does tend to focus on the negative side of life rather a lot and consequently doesn't make submission sound very desirable. So, before I get into the detailed passage-by-passage arguments I would like to try and explain why a wife who is submissive towards her husband is such a glorious and powerful component of an earthly family and of the Yisraelite family at large. The Besorah message is, after all, “good news” and hence a reason for delighted cheerfulness and joy, but in these focused theological debates it sometimes seems that the Yisraelite life is all long faces and dour clothes and instructions towards restrictive behaviour.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">A submissive wife is one whose heart is inclined towards satisfying her husband and who has made a choice to be led by her husband, to accept his authority and to be his helper in the broad scriptural sense of that word. She does not seek to please her husband because she is afraid of his rebuke or rejection or punishment, but because she delights to please him and finds satisfaction in doing so.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">For a man, a submissive wife is a pleasure to be around because she helps him to feel peaceful and contented, she is a reliable helper who can be depended upon. He can trust her with his deepest desires and fears because he is not afraid of her scorn or her rejection or her anger. He can relax with her because he knows that even when he makes mistakes, she will be working with him to put them right and minimize the consequences rather than using them to prove a point or as an excuse for rejecting him in some way. A man who has a submissive wife acquires a greater sense of self respect because he knows that she respects his authority in her life and she is not in any way trying to belittle him.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">A submissive wife is one who makes a choice not to resist her husband's will. That is not to say that she cannot disagree with him or that she cannot express an opinion. Indeed the submissive wife is, by definition, a strong woman and will usually therefore have her own opinions and these may often be different to the opinions of her husband. Can she express them? Of course she can, and indeed it might often be wrong for her not to express them since she is, after all, supposed to be her husband's helper, not his doormat. Expressing her opinions and giving advice and suggestions will often be a valuable part of the help that she gives her husband.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">Let us see how this works in life by using an analogy of a road for life and junctions in the road for each of life's decision points of choices. The married man and woman set off walking along the road of life and at each junction they choose which road to take next. Sooner or later they will arrive at a junction where they each desire to take a different road and hence there is a disagreement:</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">In the disharmonious family there is a quarrel, there is cajoling or bullying, there is intimidation and bitter words. The quarrel might last for the rest of their lives with neither giving ground and thus they never move on or, finally, either the husband and wife continue along one road together with one of them feeling resentful and both of them feeling bruised and wary of the other, or if they could not even obtain an unpleasant agreement then the marriage might simply fall apart and they separate, each taking a different road. None of these outcomes is pleasant or desirable. </span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="background-color: black; color: white; line-height: 20px;">When a submissive woman finds that her wishes conflict with those of her husband she has little or nothing to fear. If her husband is respectful then they will discuss the matter together agreeably, frankly and cheerfully and through the discussion they might reach either a compromise or one of them might change their mind completely and accept the other person's wishes. If this happens then they can continue along the road they have now agreed upon with no sense of bitterness and without having expressed any angry words. However, agreement might not be reached so then what? If they cannot reach agreement then the submissive wife needs only to obey her husband and accept his wishes graciously. Having done this there are now only a few possible outcomes, all of which have positive aspects and none of which is particularly terrible. In the first possible outcome they will take the road the husband selects and, in due course they will discover that they have chosen a good route through life and both will be happy. In the second possible outcome they will take the road the husband selects but, in due course, they discover that it was not such a good choice after all. All they do is turn around, go back to the junction and take a different road; there has been no need for argument, nobody has felt disrespected or belittled and they have not bruised one another. Although the husband's choice turned out to be a bad one, they have discovered the mistake together, discovered it quickly, and swiftly got back onto a better road and, in the process, they have strengthened their bond by having been able to disagree with dignity and mutual respect. They are not stuck in a perpetual argument at the junction, they have not separated and the process of finding a mutually acceptable road has not weakened their marriage.</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">If the submissive woman has a husband who is not respectful and who is inclined to abuse her gift of submissive then still she has little to fear. The worst possible outcome is that they will travel a bad road together until the next junction. Although the road might be bad it is good to remember the positive aspects of the situation: They have still remained together, they have kept alive the possibility of improving their relationship as they make their way through the troubles of life, they have not wasted time and damaged one another in a bitter quarrel and they are not still standing at the junction locked in argument. They have moved on, and therefore given themselves the hope of another choice later. This, remember, is the worst possible outcome. Even with a selfish husband it is still possible that he will acknowledge that the road is bad and that they will turn back to take another route.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">I have mentioned this example of a road journey to try and illustrate that submission can bring real and worthwhile benefits to a marriage. The scripture also indicates that the act of submission by a woman is able to influence a bad man to change his ways but even if he doesn't change, her choice of submission will still allow her to avoid the worst of the possible problems that a bad marriage and husband might bring.</span></div>
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The key text concerning the submission of wives to their husbands</span></h3>
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<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-indent: 0px;"><i>יהוה</i></span><i> . For the husband is the head of the wife as Messiah is the head of the assembly, his body, of which he is the Saviour. Now as the assembly submits to Messiah, so also wives should submit to their husbands <u>in everything</u>.</i></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">Husbands, love your wives, just as Messiah loved the assembly and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant assembly, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but kadosh and blameless. In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Messiah does the assemblies-- for we are members of his body. "For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become basar echad." This is a profound mystery -- but I am talking about Messiah and the assemblies.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.</span></div>
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Submission in the Yisraelite world</span></h3>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">Submission of one person to another is described in various forms in the Netzarim faith. There is the submission of wives to husbands, of slaves to masters, of Yisraelites to one another, of Yisraelites to the Beit Din, and Yisraelites to
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We don't really like the idea though ...</span></h3>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">In the “Western World” of the twenty-first century, the form of submission that is perhaps most frequently contested is that of wives to husbands. It has been pointed out on several occasions and by various people that the scriptures do not say that wives are to obey their husbands — only that they are to submit to them. Now, each of the clauses in the preceding sentence is true; the problem comes with the word “only” that is used to connect the two clauses. The women (and many men) who want to limit the authority of a husband over his wife are seriously mistaken if they think that a husband can expect less compliance from a submissive wife than from an obedient one; the truth is quite the reverse. Obedience is easy. Submission is hard. Obedience demands little. Submission demands much. It is not possible for a wife to submit to her husband without also being prepared to obey him; a submissive wife is also an obedient wife.</span></div>
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The meanings of the words "submit" and "obey"</span></h3>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">If I obey then I do what those who have authority over me tell me to do. There must be an explicit command given before I can obey it and consequently if no command is given then it is not possible for me to be either obedient or disobedient. Obedience does not of itself require me to be cheerful, willing, co-operative or contented. I can be surly, rude, bitter and unhelpful and still be obedient. I do not have to be willing to be merely obedient because mere obedience can be forced upon me. For these reasons, obedience is easy when compared to full submission.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">In order to submit to a person who has authority over me, I do not need to wait for an explicit command but instead I can attempt to anticipate the commands and thus avoid the need for them to be given. Anticipating the commands does not mean that I can substitute my own agenda or my own will but rather that I am trying to imagine what the person in authority will want me to do next; I am trying to make my will conform to theirs. Attempting to anticipate the commands does not allow me to disobey any command that has been explicitly given — those I am still required to obey. If I am to be truly submissive I must also learn to be contented, cheerful, willing and co-operative even if I do not like doing what is required of me. Finally submission is a choice that I must continuously make. It can be seen therefore that submission is far more demanding than merely obedience and requires much more of me than does mere obedience.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">It is also worth repeating that submission is NEVER enforced upon a person. Submission is the opposite of oppression. In fact submission is a gift that one person gives to another. In a marriage, submission is the wife's gift to her husband. If the husband is wise he will treasure that gift and handle it very carefully because his own happiness depends on it. Submission is a gift that must be renewed each day or even each moment.</span></div>
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Trying to wriggle out of the obligation to obey</span></h3>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">It has been claimed that a wife need only obey her husband when her husband's will conforms to the will of
<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-align: justify;">יהוה</span> and that is right for a wife to disobey her husband when what he commands is wrong. At first sight this argument seems to be very reasonable but unfortunately it leads into chaos and emptiness and also leaves the wives in a very cruel “no-win” situation. It is true that all husbands are fallen and sinful and it follows that they will make mistakes and that they might desire and command what they ought not desire and command. It is also true, but more frequently overlooked, that all wives are fallen and sinful and it follows that they will make mistakes and that they might desire what they ought not desire.
<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-align: justify;">יהוה</span> knew both of these facts when he arranged for scripture to be written and yet he still gave wives the instruction to submit to their husbands. He knew that husbands would wield the authority that he gave them imperfectly and he knew that wives would respond to that authority imperfectly. It is a terrible wrong for husbands to abuse their authority but it is no less terribly wrong for wives to reject or usurp their husband's authority.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">Some of the people who claim that wives have the right to selectively submit to their husbands have put much emphasis on three B'rit Chadassha passages - Acts 5:1-10, Acts 4:19 (and a similar passage in Acts 5:29) and Ephesians 5:21. It is worth looking at these to see what they add to the debate.</span></div>
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A passage to consider: Acts 5, v1-10</span></h3>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">The first passage concerns Ananias and his wife Sapphira who sold a field, brought the money to the Apostles feet and were promptly struck dead. It has been said that this proves that a wife who does something sinful because her husband commanded it, will be punished by <span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-align: justify;">יהוה</span> and that therefore it is right for a wife to obey her husband only when she thinks his will is in accordance with <span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-align: justify;">יהוה</span>'s will. The fact that anyone can draw such a conclusion from this passage reveals only how desperate they are to avoid having to admit that wives must obey their husbands. Even a simple reading of the passage will show quite clearly that Ananias and Sapphira were in the deceit together. There is nothing at all in the passage to suggest that Sapphira was ordered to do something that she thought wrong; indeed there is nothing to suggest that she was ordered at all. Verse 2 reads as follows:</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;"><i>“But with his wife's agreement he kept part of the money for himself ...” </i>Verse 2 as presented in the Good News Bible.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">It is very clear, then, that Sapphira was not forced by her errant husband to do something that she did not wish to do; she was not obeying an order that she thought wrong but rather she was aiding and abetting a plan of which she approved. We cannot conclude from the story that Sapphira was an innocent and unwilling partner in wrongdoing and, consequently, this passage is irrelevant to the present discussion.</span></div>
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A second passage to consider: Acts 4 verse 19</span></h3>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">This passage concerns the instructions given by the Sanhedrin to Kepha and Yochannan, and the reply, repeated below, that was given by the talmidim:</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;"><i>“You yourselves judge which is right in </i>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">Let us first state an obvious but important point: This is not a conflict between a husband and a wife but between two groups of male Yisraelites. The relationship between the parties is therefore very different to that between a husband and a wife [footnote 1]. We also need to ask whether the Sanhedrin had any authority over Kepha and Yochannan. Both parties were claiming to represent
<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-align: justify;">יהוה</span> — but which of them had the better claim? The two talmidim had received their commission personally and physically from the mouth of Yahushua himself. They did not simply refuse to obey the Sanhedrin (though they implied that they were going to) rather they threw the whole command back at the Sanhedrin by telling the Sanhedrin members “<i>judge for yourselves</i>” and thereby questioned the Sanhedrin's authority to issue the order at all. Implicit in the disciples' response is the notion that the Sanhedrin knew, or at least ought to have known, that it was acting beyond its powers. In a modern setting the disciples might have said “If you stop and think for one moment you will realize that your own laws and rules prohibit you from giving this order.”</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">Also it is worth remembering that when this conversation took place Jerusalem was within the Roman empire; the final authority was not the Sanhedrin but the Roman governor and the Romans did allow a certain amount of religious freedom.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">For the reasons given above this passage does not give any support to the notion that wives should only selectively obey their husbands.</span></div>
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The third passage to consider: Ephesians 5:21</span></h3>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">The third passage “<i>Submit to one another because of your reverence for Messiah</i>” is apparently given to believers in general. Consequently the form of submission referred to in this text is slightly different to that spoken of in other texts. Because this command applies to all relationships (including those between equals) it is not feasible for it to always imply unconditional or automatic obedience. Obedience to one another cannot be forced on equals since it would be impossible to know who should obey who! The other aspects of submission remain valid however. Thus although this passage does show that obedience is not always a part of submission it does not give occasion for wives to disobey their husbands because a husband and wife are not equal in role or function.</span></div>
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<b><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">Very important side note: The inequality of <i>role and function</i> for a husband and a wife are biologically obvious but this does not imply inequality in <i>value.</i> The desire and tendency to award a value to everything is itself a symptom of our very fallen nature. Personally I would rate a wife as one of the most valuable assets in the universe and the scriptures lend much support to the notion that having a wife is something that a man ought to treasure and value highly.</span></b></blockquote>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">It can be seen therefore, these passages do not by themselves give a wife any grounds for disobeying her husband. To know whether there are times when a wife can legitimately disobey her husband it is necessary to look directly at the nature of sin.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">Without going into all the arguments and texts, the B'rit Chadassha teaches that sin is, not living up to the standard of Torah, and, in part, the doing of what you believe to be wrong; Sha'ul in his teachings uses the example of food. Thus if you believe that it is morally wrong for you to eat a particular food — cabbage for instance — then you sin every time you eat cabbage even though <span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-align: justify;">יהוה</span> has not prohibited the eating of cabbage. It is your belief that condemns you. Consequently if a wife really believes that it would be morally wrong to obey her husband then she will sin by obeying him and she should therefore disobey him. However, this is a very uncomfortable, unloving and unbiblical position ...</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">If we say that a wife can choose whether or not to obey her husband then we will often place her in a very difficult position. If she disobeys her husband in order to supposedly obey <span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-align: justify;">יהוה</span> then she has automatically disobeyed
<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-align: justify;">יהוה</span>. This means that whatever she does will be wrong and this seems to me to be an extremely unloving and burdensome position to put anyone into.
<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-align: justify;">יהוה</span>'s instructions that a wife should obey her husband are far kinder and more loving because she can always obey <span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-align: justify;">יהוה</span> by obeying her husband. If her husband tells her to do something that <span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-align: justify;">יהוה</span> disapproves of then it is her husband (not her) who will have to give an account of it to
<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-align: justify;">יהוה</span>. The woman cannot be held accountable for the matter because <i>her </i>responsibility (the bit that <span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-align: justify;">יהוה</span> will<i> </i>ask <i>her</i> to account for) is to obey her husband.</span></div>
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An obedient wife does right even when she does wrong...</span></h3>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">If the married woman believes that is more important to obey <span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-align: justify;">יהוה</span> by submitting to and obeying her husband then she can do this with complete confidence. Sarah obeyed Avraham and went to live with both the king of Egypt [Footnote 2] and with Abimelech the king of Gerar [Footnote 3]. There is no indication that Sarah was held responsible by
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<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-align: justify;">יהוה</span> was offended by them. Now, keeping these two events in mind, let us see what the Sholiach Kepha wrote on the subject of submission of wives to husbands:</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;"><i>In the same way [Footnote 4] you wives must submit to your husbands, so that if any of them do not believe</i> <span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-indent: 0px;"><i>יהוה</i></span><i>'s word, your conduct will win them over to believe. It will not be necessary for you to say a word, because they will see how pure and reverent your conduct is. You should not use outward aids to make yourself beautiful such as the way you do your hair, or the jewellery you put on, or the dresses you wear. Instead your beauty should consist of your true inner self, the ageless beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of the greatest value in</i>
<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-indent: 0px;"><i>יהוה</i></span><i>'s sight. For the devout women of the past who placed their hope in</i>
<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-indent: 0px;">יהוה</span> <i>used to make themselves beautiful by submitting to their husbands. Sarah was like that; she obeyed Avraham and called him her master. You are now her daughters if you do good and are not afraid of anything.</i></span></div>
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<span style="color: white;">So Sarah, the woman who obeyed her husband even when what he told her to do was morally wrong, is held up as an example of how Yisraelite wives should be. Yisraelite women married to non-Yisraelite men (a situation that can only occur when there is conversion after marriage) are told to submit to them and, by implication, obey them. It is almost inconceivable (to me at least) that Kepha should be incapable of imagining the possible conflicts of morality between a believing wife and an unbelieving husband but nonetheless Kepha doesn't make any special provision for such a situation. Yet even in the same passage Kepha tells wives that they are to “do good”. At first glance this seems grossly unfair; the wife is to obey her husband even when what he tells her to do is wrong, yet she is also to “do good”. This apparent paradox is easily removed if we remember that a person can only be held responsible for sin when they have a free choice in the matter. If Kepha is assuming that the wife has no choice except to obey her husband then he is also assuming that she cannot sin in what she obediently does. In such circumstances, her only possible sin is that of disobeying her husband. Notice also that Kepha describes this sort of conduct as being of “the greatest value in
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">A wife's obedience to a misguided, errant or ungodly husband does not mean that any harmful consequences of his wrong actions will be avoided, but this should not concern a Yisraelite (man or woman, in this or any similar situation) too much. Our obedience leaves room (a) for us to grow individually in the fruits of the spirit and (b) for
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">Yahushua obeyed his father, was arrested illegally, tried unfairly, judged wrongly, executed without having committed a crime, suffered horribly and died. His obedience provided the means by which we are saved.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">Sha'ul of Tarsus was also treated unfairly and wrongly and he also endured great physical suffering (read 2 Corinthians 11:23-31 for Sha'ul's own description of his troubles). Nonetheless Sha'ul did not seek to oppose the Governing authorities by forbidden means but instead entrusted his case to the one who always judges fairly. His obedience allowed the Besorah to be spread to the entire world.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">We as mere mortals are not expected to understand all of what is happening in the world around us [Footnote 5]. We cannot see what
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">I would be surprised if some readers were not by now asking what has happened to the Elohim of love and remarking that all of this seems a little harsh. To such a charge I would reply that in some ways it is very harsh. We are called to be obedient unto death.
<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-align: justify;">יהוה</span> has provided a moral law that is totally unyielding. We do not judge the moral or written law — it is the standard against which we are judged. If there are mitigating circumstances surrounding my failure to reach the required standard then our El, who is just, will know them and take them into account. The fact that I cannot attain the required standard on the occasions when there are no mitigating circumstances is precisely why the Ben <span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-align: justify;">יהוה</span> had to be crucified on my behalf: That is how harsh the Torah of
<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-align: justify;">יהוה</span> is and how loving and merciful our El is — it his by His law that we are condemned and by his grace and sacrifice that we are saved. Love does not set aside the requirement for obedience but on the cross at Calvary love does deal with the consequences of disobedience.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">However, near the beginning of this discussion I gave an example of a husband and wife taking a journey through life and I tried to demonstrate that, in fact, where a wife has a submissive attitude and is therefore willing to obey her husband, the outcome can never be as bad as worst that can happen where there is no obedience or submission. The requirement for a woman to submit to her husband and to obey him is harsh in the sense that it is not optional but it is the harshness imposed by a loving El who knows that this strict approach will always avoid the worst of the possible outcomes and always provide the possibilities for a couple to grow together, mature, gain wisdom and learn to love one another more effectively.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">The alternative, if you recall in my example, was that the couple might find themselves trudging together with bitterness and resentment, might be stuck at the same junction indefinitely and locked in unproductive argument, or they might simply separate altogether. The path of submission and attendant obedience is something our loving abba has ordained for us so that we can enjoy marriage even with conflicts and disagreements. The requirement for wives to be submissive and obedient seems harsh to those who have not understood the concepts, who have not understood its rich benefits to both husband and wife, and who have not recognized the awfulness of the alternatives.</span></div>
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A summary reminder: What is submission?</span></h3>
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<span style="background-color: black; color: white;">As already mentioned, submission is a gift that one person gives to another. Now I would like to briefly reiterate and expand upon some misconceptions about a submissive person.</span></div>
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<dt style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">Misconception: A submissive person is weak.</span></dt>
<dd style="margin-bottom: 2ex;"><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">This is very wrong. In fact a very weak person cannot submit. Only a very strong person can submit fully. Remember, submission is a gift that must be given freely. It is impossible to force a person to submit because that is a contradiction in terms. A weak person can be manipulated and forced to obey but then that is no longer submission but oppression.</span></dd>
<dt style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">Misconception: A submissive person has no control.</span></dt>
<dd style="margin-bottom: 2ex;"><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">Actually nobody is ever fully in control of their own lives because nobody can control all of their circumstances. Submission is an act of the will; a submissive person makes a positive choice to submit to another person. Consequently a submissive person has at least as much in control as any other person, possibly more since many people never make definite positive choices but merely drift from one excuse to another.</span></dd>
<dt style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">Misconception: Submission is degrading.</span></dt>
<dd style="margin-bottom: 2ex;"><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">In fact submission is a very beautiful and enormously valuable gift that only a strong person can give. Nobody is degraded by giving, or wanting to give, beautiful and valuable gifts to another person. Submission is a gift that benefits the giver even if the receiver is incapable of treating the gift and the giver with the appropriate respect and care.</span></dd>
<dt style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">Misconception: A submissive person is abused.</span></dt>
<dd style="margin-bottom: 2ex;"><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">Well, it is true that a submissive person could be abused by a stupid person who does not appreciate the value of the gift. However, anybody can be abused, submissive or not, so this irrelevant.</span></dd></dl>
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<tr align="left" valign="top"><td style="vertical-align: top;"><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">1. </span></td><td style="vertical-align: top;"><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">A husband and wife are bound together until separated by death; they are not free to separate from one another. The husband and one wife are made one in a fashion that does not exist between any other two of
<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-align: justify;">יהוה</span>'s people. The dispute between the talmidim and the Sanhedrin is also a dispute between "equals" to the extent that all the parties to the conflict are men. A different situation arises between a married couple simply because <i>"the husband is the head of the wife as Messiah is the head of the assembly"</i> (cf Ephesians 5:23 and 1 Corinthians 11:3) — in other words the husband is responsible for, and will be held accountable before
<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-align: justify;">יהוה</span> for, his wife. By itself this is no easier than the original situation and it certainly does not allow the wife to act according to her own will. She now has a choice between doing what she believes her husband wants her to do and doing what she believes
<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-align: justify;">יהוה</span> wants her to do. Her own desires don't get much chance to surface.
<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-align: justify;">יהוה</span> in his written word has told her to submit to, and hence to obey, her husband. It follows therefore that by obeying her husband she is obeying
<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-align: justify;">יהוה</span> . Nonetheless it might be that after prayerful consideration she will conclude that she must disobey her husband and if she really believes that this is
<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-align: justify;">יהוה</span>'s will then she must do it.</span></td></tr>
<tr align="left" valign="top"><td style="vertical-align: top;"><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">2. </span></td><td style="vertical-align: top;"><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">B'reisheet 12:10-20</span></td></tr>
<tr align="left" valign="top"><td style="vertical-align: top;"><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">3. </span></td><td style="vertical-align: top;"><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">B'reisheet 20</span></td></tr>
<tr align="left" valign="top"><td style="vertical-align: top;"><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">4. </span></td><td style="vertical-align: top;"><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">The previous passage should also be read — it discusses the idea of doing what is right by submitting even though it might lead to unpleasantness and suffering.</span></td></tr>
<tr align="left" valign="top"><td style="vertical-align: top;"><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">5. </span></td><td style="vertical-align: top;"><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">Mishle, chapter 20, verse 24:
<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 19px; text-align: justify;">יהוה</span> has determined our path; how then can anyone understand the direction his own life is taking?</span></td></tr>
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<div class="blogger-post-footer">Yeshayahu 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man,
saying, “We shall eat our own food and wear our own clothes;
only let us be called by your name, to take away our reproach.”
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Secondly, supposing a married man only "wanted more sex." I could give millions of examples of men who have done just that. Either they have hired a prostitute or have had secret relations with another single woman with no intention to form a family with her or, worst of all, have carried on an adulterous relationship with another man's wife. Having "more sex" comes easily in our society. Taking the responsibility of a family doesn't. There are millions of bastards conceived out of wedlock because of men and women wanting "more sex." A man who is a servant of the Most High wants the blessings of family. He covets finding a "good thing" and raising godly seed. He feels that it is his calling to expand the kingdom of YHWH by being fruitful and multiplying. He takes wives for the blessings while considering the awesome responsibility that comes with expanding a family. He seeks to follow the examples of our forefathers - Abraham, Jacob, Moses, Gideon, David and Solomon. He recognizes that "in the beginning" set a precedent for the patriarchal family and trembles in fear of YHWH as he seeks to fulfill that divine mission. <br />
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Lastly, making such a statement not only shows ignorance of the Torah, it insults YHWH's anointed throughout the ages. At the least, it makes men that YHWH favored nothing but self-satisfying perverts. It also questions the origins of not only the people of Israel (brought forth by a man with four wives), but the origins of the Messiah Yahushua Himself who comes from that lineage and promises to take each believer as a wife unto Himself. <br />
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I pray that anyone making such a foolish statement would repent and think things through. And I pray that many servants of YHWH find many wives and have plenty of "more sex" and build YHWH's kingdom through raising godly seed. <div class="blogger-post-footer">Yeshayahu 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man,
saying, “We shall eat our own food and wear our own clothes;
only let us be called by your name, to take away our reproach.”
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saying, “We shall eat our own food and wear our own clothes;
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Who is allowed to define the term "traditional marriage?" The RAMYK answers that question in this teaching series.</div>
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<strong><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Tackling Not So "Traditional Marriage"</span></strong></div>
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<strong>By The RAMYK-Rabbi Apostle Moshe Yoseph Koniuchowsky</strong></div>
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<strong>Moon 8 Day 4 5972 Since Creation-<span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT9740_com_zimbra_date">October 2012</span></strong></div>
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PLEASE
PASS THIS TEACHING ON IN ITS ENTIRETY TO ANY CHURCH OR MESSIANIC LEADER
YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY OR ONLINE, OR SOMEONE YOU WOULD LIKE TO WITNESS
TO, AS THE HOUR TO FIND AND TRAIN FOR TRIBAL KINGDOM LIVING IS QUICKLY
DRAWING TO A CLOSE.</div>
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<b>QUESTION-VERY
IMPORTANT!</b> Who gets the final word and who gets to define TRADITIONAL
MARRIAGE? Dr. James Dobson, Focus on the Family, Perry Stone, Joel
Osteen, Evangelicals, Messianics or FATHER YHWH in heaven? <b>WHOSE
DEFINITION IS FINAL AND PURE?</b> And, how do those definitions differ? If
one reviews Hebrews chapter 11, we find many heroes of the
Judeo-Christian faith. What kind of marriages did they have? Traditional
or non-traditional? And if traditional, how did that tradition differ
from what we <span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT9741_com_zimbra_date">today</span> call traditional? </div>
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Now
nowhere in Scripture does YHWH, the Creator and Savior of all men,
state that kosher or traditional marriage is between "ONE" MAN AND "ONE"
WOMAN! THIS IS MERELY ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE FOSSILIZED CUSTOMS WE HAVE
INHERITED FROM PAGANS. Yirmeyahu-Jeremiah 16:19.</div>
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Despite
evangelical pounding and non-stop usage of this unbiblical phrase to
somehow make it seem that this is what Scripture actually records,
YHWH's words are quite different. So different in fact that traditional
marriage is only defined as between HETEROSEXUAL GENDERS, not ever even
remotely as limited to "ONE" MAN AND "ONE" WOMAN from each gender. </div>
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As
you are about to discover, perhaps surprisingly, church and state
definitions, along with that of western society regarding traditional
marriage, is an invention of the deprivation of man's minds, against the
Creator. The now widely accepted definition of traditional marriage as
between one man and one woman exclusively, is not only a deception from
pagan non-Hebraic cultures, but an outright twisting of YHWH's Words in
both the Tanach ("Old Testament") and the Brit Chadasha ("New
Testament"). We call that a BIG LIE. Just because the churches have
repeated a lie for some 2,000 years and just because the modern
Messianic movement has repeated it without stopping to question it or
line it up with what Torah actually says, DOES NOT GIVE MANKIND THE
PERMISSION OR AUTHORITY to redefine marriage as traditionally between
"one" man and 'one" woman.</div>
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So
does Scripture define traditional marriage? Yes it does. And as we are
about to find out that traditional marriage is defined not by man, but
by YHWH's Word alone. And in YHWH's Word, we find that what makes a
marriage traditional is not whether it is monogamous or polygynous, but
rather, whether its homo or heterosexual based and whether it does or
does not violate other Torah prohibitions, like marrying your own sister
or daughter etc. We will now correct the "traditional marriage" lie not
with the words of Dr. James Dobson or Dr. Charles Stanley, but with the
words of Doctor Abba YHWH (Primary Physician) and the referrals of the
Great Jewish Specialist Physician, Yahushua ben Yah!</div>
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Beresheeth-Genesis 1:27-So the Word of Elohim [1] created man in His own image, in the image of Elohim He created him; male and female He created them.</div>
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Now notice the first reference to TRADITIONAL BIBLICAL marriage! MALE AND FEMALE, or in Hebrew, ZACHAR VE-NEKAYVAH.</div>
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Are
there any references to the "limitation" lie of ONE male and ONE
female? Make sure you answer this HONESTLY and without presumptions!</div>
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Those
words are RELIGIOUS INSERTIONS MY FRIENDS, learned from the PAGAN
NATIONS!! YHWH blesses patriarchy (the original design where a male
oversees a female) and yet does not limit how many ONE FLESH COVENANTS
can exist between a man and a woman! Only that the true ORIGINAL
TRADITIONAL PATRIARCHAL MARRIAGE MODEL, MUST INCLUDE A MAN AND A WOMAN,
not a man and man or a woman and woman, or any form of Polyamory. Now
let's look at Beresheeth-Genesis 2:21-25:</div>
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21 And YHWH Elohim caused a deep sleep to fall upon Ahdahm and he slept: and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh in its place; <br />
22 And with the rib that YHWH Elohim had taken from man, He made a woman, and brought her to the man. <br />
23 And Ahdahm said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh:
she shall be called Isha, because she was taken out of Ish. <br />
24 Therefore shall a man leave his abba and his eema, and shall cleave to his wife: and they shall be basar echad. <br />
25 And they were both naked, the ish and his isha, and were not ashamed.</div>
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Here
again traditional marriage is seen as between "A" MAN AND "A" WOMAN,
referring to GENDER, not to numerical considerations! As we see
throughout Scripture, from Gideon, and Caleb to Moses and to Yahushua
Himself (Jeremiah 31:31-35, Ezekiel 37, Matthew 25:1) a MAN, JUST LIKE
OUR MESSIAH THE TRUE AND PERFECT SECOND ADAM, is allowed to make MANY
ONE FLESH COVENANTS with any eligible woman. That's exactly what
Yahushua has done with us, as we ALL became eligible by His atoning
blood! It is most important to note that the first Adam was not perfect
and cannot teach us the original pattern for "traditional marriage." THE
SECOND ADAM THE PERFECT MASTER FROM HEAVEN, shows us by His shared
love, that this is love and traditional marriage in its purest and most
SELFLESS form, but indeed the most challenging. A task for the second
not the first Adam. YHWH does not define traditional marriage based on
numerical considerations, but based on gender alone and the availability
of the eligible females. THAT VERY PHRASE "TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE" WHILE
SOUNDING QUITE PIOUS, IS A S.A.TANIC TRAP, AS THAT PHRASE APPEARS
NOWHERE IN SCRIPTURE and it should alert you to an awaiting snare from
the mindset of the gentiles!</div>
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THE
OVERRIDING POINT IS THAT TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE IS WHAT YAHUSHUA SAYS IT
IS, not what the Pope or the Methodists, TBN or anyone else says it is.
It is time for ALL true bible believers to make a full and MOST HUMBLE
TESHUVAH-RETURN-REPENTANCE back to true traditional marriage, which can
be either mono or plural heterosexual.</div>
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True
traditional marriage is all about gender and the eligibility of the
perspective female. Now religion is truly such an opiate of the people,
that some will fall back on Yahushua's very own Words in Matthew 19,
actually believing that they will somehow find the "one man" "one woman"
assertions of the modern Messianic movement and Christianity. [The
original Messianic Nazarenes were not fooled by <span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT9742_com_zimbra_date">today</span>'s
Messianic pagan versions of traditional marriage] That somehow they
will find justification for their inherited lies about traditional
marriage by pinpointing the Word "ONE" as in "ONE" man married to only
"ONE" woman. But as we are all about to see, they are sadly mistaken, as
Yahushua's Words, the very Giver of the Torah, cannot contradict the
same Words He gave originally to Moshe/Moses. Let's look at Matthew 19
very carefully:</div>
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The Prushim also came to Him, tempting Him, and saying to Him, Is it
permitted in Torah for a man to put away his wife for any and every
cause? </div>
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4 And He answered and said to them, Have you not read, that He who made them in Beresheeth made them male and female,</div>
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5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave abba and eema, and shall cleave to his wife: and the two shall be one flesh? [2]</div>
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6 Therefore they are no more two, but basar echad. What therefore YHWH has joined together, let not man put asunder.</div>
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7 They said to Him, Why did Moshe then command to give a Get, and to put her away? <br />
8 He said to them, Moshe because of the hardness of your levavot allowed you to put away your wives: but from the beginning and from eternity [3] it was not so. </div>
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And I say to you, Whoever shall divorce his wife, except it be for
fornication, and shall marry another, commits adultery: and whoever
marries her who has not yet been divorced [4] does commit adultery. </div>
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10 His talmidim said to Him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not tov to marry. <br />
11 But He said to them, All men cannot receive your saying, except those to whom it is given. </div>
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Now
as we examine things in verse 3, the Pharisees were not seeking truth,
but a mere prolonged self justifying argument. Just like many of you! </div>
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THE TOPIC IN VERSE 3 OF MATTITYAHU-MATTHEW 19 IS WHAT IS AND IS NOT PERMITTED REGARDING DIVORCE.
The subject matter is not monogamy or polygyny! The church and the
evangelic anti-Torah Messianics have made it such, sometimes to cover
their own sinful divorces. But that is not the question, topic or the
trap. The Pharisaic trap is over the issue of divorce. In
verse 4 Yahushua asks a rhetorical question regarding "traditional
marriage," reaffirming the very same thing that Yahushua said earlier to
Moshe/Moses before He came to earth as our Savior! IN BERESHETH/THE
BEGINNING/IN THE FIRST BOOK OF TORAH, YHWH MADE "<b>TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE</b>,"
AS THAT BETWEEN ANY MALE AND ANY ELIGIBLE FEMALE, ZACHAR VE-NEKAYVAH. </div>
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Now
where in verse 4 of Mattityahu 19 does Yahushua the SON OF YHWH, state
that monogamy or polygyny is ok or not ok? Nowhere! That's not the
topic/subject/discussion matter. He is not redefining traditional marriage but confirming traditional marriage as defined by heterosexual unions between the eligible. These heterosexual unions CANNOT AND MUST NOT BE BROKEN BY DIVORCE.The
subject at hand is divorce, NOT WHAT CONSTITUTES "TRADITIONAL"
marriage, which every Jew and every Hebrew from all backgrounds, knew
back then, can either be the heterosexual monogamous or the heterosexual
polygynous model! If they did not know that they were not Jews or
Israelites but pagans, who actually were the ones that did redefine
marriage, as they blindly continue to do <span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT9743_com_zimbra_date">today</span>! </div>
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YAHUSHUA'S QUESTION TO ALL HIS FOLLOWERS <span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT9744_com_zimbra_date">TODAY</span> IS THIS: DON'T YOU KNOW WHAT TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE IS? IN THE BEGINNING IT WAS MALE AND FEMALE, as it remains to this very hour.
NOW PLEASE CAREFULLY NOTE THAT AT NO POINT DOES YAHUSHUA FALL INTO THE
TRAP OF THE CHURCH AND THE MODERN EVANGELICAL MESSIANIC MOVEMENT BY
ADDING A WORD TO CREATE A SELF JUSTIFYING LIE.</div>
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THE
LIE IS THE INSERTION OF THE WORD "ONE" BEFORE MAN AND "ONE" BEFORE
WOMAN, TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A NUMERICAL PROHIBITION RATHER THAN A GENDER
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Obviously that was added so as to justify their lascivious lifestyle of divorce on demand, a practice of many spiritual leaders <span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT9745_com_zimbra_date">today</span>.
These same leaders condemn a righteous practice, as they want the sex
in a new marriage, rather than the eternal obligations associated with
more than one covenant partner, which is far more expensive, burdensome
and less economical. And by twisting Scripture and making polygyny the
issue, placing it on trial, they are able to vilify polygynists, who
obey YHWH in all their covenant responsibilities and at the same time
justify their own sinful and lustful serial monogamy. And like the
Pharisees, many <span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT9746_com_zimbra_date">today</span>
in the body of Yahushua, have fallen prey to the same self righteous
justification, putting others on trial for living kosher, in an attempt
to justify a litany of lustful marriages, divorces and remarriages, as
ways to start having fresh and exciting flesh sex, usually with a
younger woman, in a new marriage, or worse yet, outside of it entirely.
YHWH's ways are better; nullifying the very need for divorce, if men and
women of humility would simply follow His instructions, as opposed to
laying out the same trap as our Pharisaical forefathers, through their
hard hearts and misguided attempts at self justification.</div>
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I
hope that no one reading this is content in living in and believing a
lie in such a vital area as what exactly constitutes a traditional
marriage. Now recall that the issue being addressed in Matthew chapter
19 is divorce and when it is permitted and when it is not. Heterosexual
monogamy as well as heterosexual plural marriage are both seen as
traditional, as both meet the gender criteria. </div>
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Now
verse 5 of Matthew 19 does not support or define traditional marriage
as monogamy or plural. What verse 5 does do is undergird "traditional
marriage" as whenever a man leaves parents to go take an eligible wife. NOW
LISTEN CAREFULLY. Every time this process occurs, A NEW ONE FLESH
COVENANT is established by ANY TWO, NOT LIMITED TO ONE SET OF TWO! YHWH
does not limit the amount of times this process is allowed to occur, nor
the subsequent number of covenants that are allowed to be sealed for
time and eternity. The point being that all the ONE FLESH
UNIONS between a male and an eligible female are for time and eternity
AND MUST NEVER BE ANNULLED OR LEAD TO A DIVORCE. There is one exception
to this steadfast rule as seen in Yahushua's Words in verse 8 of Matthew
19. Moses-Moshe Rabainu allowed DIVORCE because of mankind's hard
hearts. When a man divorces his wife for mere feelings or hurt emotions,
or failed expectations of some sort, is what YHWH HIMSELF DEFINES AS
"THE FORESAKNG OF THE WIFE OF HIS YOUTH" AND THE "DEALING TREACHEROUSLY"
with her. See Malachi 2:14-16 in its PROPER CONTEXT!</div>
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In
those verses IN CONTEXT, YHWH says He hates DIVORCE; NOT POLYGYNY,
because it is a treacherous act against a man's wife or any of his
wives. Polygyny is not what YHWH says He hates; but divorce HE HATES. </div>
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14 Yet you say, Why? Because YHWH
has been a witness between you and the wife of your youth, against whom
you have dealt treacherously: yet she is your companion, and the wife of
your brit. [5] </div>
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15 And did not He make them echad? And the rest of the ruachim are His also. [6] And why echad? That he might seek a zera from Elohim. [7] Therefore take heed to your ruach, and let none deal treacherously against the wife of his youth. <br />
16 For YHWH, the Elohim of Yisrael, says that He hates divorce: [8] like the one who covers his sin with his garment, says YHWH tzevaoth: therefore guard your ruach, that you deal not treacherously with her.</div>
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Notice
that many SPIRITS-RUACHIM OR PEOPLES can form one flesh covenants not
limited to "one" man and "one" woman to establish the echad-one flesh
principle. That can be established by any 2, male and female, from among
the eligible RUACHIM-SPIRITS! And none should seek divorce which He
hates!</div>
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How
ironic that much of the misled Messianic movement and church system
treasure the divorce option, which YHWH HATES and turns around and
condemns or HATES POLYGYNY, which YHWH blesses and considers kosher
within the realm of His permissive and even His perfect will. Any male
and female that YHWH has joined in marriage let no man separate or put
asunder. Please note the "plural reference" in the term "putting away
your WIVES." in verse 8 of Matthew 19. Please note that in Malachi 2:16,
YHWH declares that DIVORCE and not polygyny is like a garment or a
cloak by humans, to conceal or hide a man's sins. Polygyny is never
referred to as a sin that men use as a garment or cloak.</div>
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And
just in case you're still confused as to whether Matthew 19 is about
divorce, or the alleged "one" man "one" woman "traditional" marriage
model, in verse 9 Yahushua says divorce is NEVER ALLOWED OR PERMITTED BY
YHWH, EXCEPT IN THE MATTER OF A WOMAN'S ADULTERY OR A MAN'S
FORNICATION. These verses then have absolutely nothing to do with
limiting "traditional marriage" to 'one" man and "one" woman, nor is it
any kind of clarification that marriage is traditionally defined as
"one" man and "one" woman. Rather, that DIVORCE IS WHAT YHWH HATES, not
polygyny and that ANY "TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE" AS DEFINED BY BOTH TORAH
AND BY THE LIVING TORAH YAHUSHUA, cannot be broken for any reason other
than sexual unfaithfulness [By the way, an absent or disappearing
spouse, is one that has become sexually unfaithful and is a sure fire
grounds for divorce; this can include physically absent, as well as
sexually absent from covenant duties]. </div>
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Also
the terms used here in verse 9 for fornication and adultery, are used
interchangeably by Yahushua, rather than Torah gender specifics, to
refer to general marriage infidelity by both genders. He is not driving
home that married women commit adultery when unfaithful and married men
commit fornication by having sex with a married woman or a single woman
and then refusing to marry her. They understood the Torah
technicalities; He merely summarizes this with broad terms that had
become equivalent to sexual sin and indiscretion, to show them that
infidelity alone was the only grounds for divorce.</div>
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Having
more than one covenant wife does not qualify as marital unfaithfulness,
for if it were, both Torah and Ha Adon Yahushua, the Living Torah,
would no doubt have stated such an important issue in no uncertain
terms, not to mention, they would not practice it either; and yet they
(YHWH and His Son-Himself in flesh) are in a love covenant with ALL OF US SIMULTANEOUSLY
and it is called the highest form known as agape love; unconditional
pure and shared without condition.</div>
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Moreover
Matthew 19 verse 9 teaches us that even with the limited divorce
allowance; no one can marry AN UNDIVORCED WOMAN, meaning a woman must be
eligible for marriage.</div>
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In
conclusion then, what makes marriage traditional is what YHWH and
Yahushua have to tell us, as we are HIS DISCIPLES; HE IS NOT OURS. We
follow His Word; He is not bound to follow our perceptions or feelings,
or learned gentile traditions. Those who continue to perpetuate the LIE
and the myth that YHWH's Word defines marriage as only between "ONE" MAN
AND "ONE" WOMAN alone, at the exclusion of a man with several covenant
wives, (the very practice of YHWH Himself), have bought into a lie and a
dysfunctional disorder of the highest degree, even a lie that exceeds
the so called "rapture" lie. A DARK FOSSILIZED CUSTOM, ABOVE ALL OTHER
SUCH LEARNED AND INHERITED CUSTOMS, that directly affect our Israelite
lifestyles and our abilities to be fruitful and multiply and fill the
earth. We have bought the lie while Allah in his Koran, has put in the
truth about "traditional" marriage, thus allowing Islam to suffocate
both YHWH'S TRUTH and His desired blessings for the myriads for Jacob's
seed. Islam has thus filled the void created by our collective ignorance
and pride and our emotional responses to the truth of plural marriage,
yet it remains just as "traditional" as heterosexual monogamy.</div>
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Thankfully
however, as Rav Sholiach Shaul states, the 'WORD OF YHWH, UNLIKE THE
OPINIONS OF MERE MEN,' CANNOT BE CHAINED and therein do we greatly take
hope and therein do we greatly rejoice, despite our struggles with
unbiblical traditions and opinions of men! It is high time that those of
us, who are committed to truth, return and make repentance, so as to
adopt the Creator's view and His Son's view on what exactly defines a
"traditional marriage" for both time and eternity! Again, the words
"ONE" before man and woman are human inserts. All those who add them and
who proclaim their insertion as somehow inspired, will have to give an
account one day soon for lack of truth and abundance in the tents of
Shem! Selah! </div>
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[1] Aramaic Targum; Onkelos.</div>
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[2]YHWH's will for marriages and Yisrael's two-house restoration. See Ephesians 5:31-32.</div>
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[3] Shem Tov reference.</div>
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[4]
Aramaic Peshitta uses the word "shbikta" meaning undivorced, or not yet
put away. This lines up with Torah more so than the Greek versions of
the Renewed Covenant, which seem to forbid any kind of remarriage. The
Aramaic allows for remarriage, as does Torah, but not until a full and
legal divorce of any prior marriage has taken place. This prevents
remarriage before a prior marriage has been dissolved. See Matthew 5:32.</div>
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[5] Rampant divorce in both houses of Yisrael was another reason for our exile.</div>
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[6] Aramaic Peshitta.</div>
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[7] That Yisrael would collectively be His son.</div>
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[8] DSS, LXX: "For if you hate and divorce" says YHWH Elohim of Yisrael.<br />
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<br /><div class="blogger-post-footer">Yeshayahu 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man,
saying, “We shall eat our own food and wear our own clothes;
only let us be called by your name, to take away our reproach.”
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Here we see Avraham traveling with Sarah, his wife and entering the land of Gerar. Out of fear of the inhabitants of the land, he tells a half-truth and describes Sarah as his sister. Sarah is described as what would be known today as a "hottie" (i.e. very attractive) and she is taken by King Avimelech to become one of his wives. Avimelech at this point has no idea that she is a married woman.<br />
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YHWH is furious! To take another man's wife is a violation of His revealed will! YHWH confronts Avimelech. <b>B'reisheet 20: 3 But Elohim came to Avimelech in a dream by night, and said to him, See, you are but a dead man, because of the woman whom you have taken; <u>for she is a man's wife</u>.</b><br />
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The penalty for adultery is DEATH! YHWH is threatening to kill Avimelech for this sin. (Note that Avimelech is already married to many women and not a word is said about his polygamy - for all those other women are his legal wives)<br />
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Avimelech then poses a question to YHWH:<br />
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Avimelech claims to be righteous and innocent of the charges. "I was lied to by both Avraham and Sarah. My heart is pure before you. Will you also destroy the righteous?"<br />
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Pay careful attention to YHWH's answer to Avimelech.<br />
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<b>B'reisheet 20:6 And Elohim said to him in a dream, <u>Yes, I know that you did this in the integrity of your lev</u>; for I also <u>withheld you from sinning</u> against Me: therefore I allowed you not to touch her.</b><br />
<b>7 Now therefore restore the man to his wife; for he is a navi, and he shall make tefillah for you, and you shall </b><b>live: and if you restore her not, know that you shall surely die, you, and all that belongs to you.</b><br />
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YHWH agrees with him! Yes, I know you were innocent in wanting to take Sarah as another wife, you didn't know that she was married. I take adultery very seriously and it will mean your life if you don't return her to her husband, my prophet. You haven't sinned in wanting another wife. But you can't have this married woman.<br />
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Avimelech is never condemned for his polygamy or for wanting to add another spouse. The distinction here is that he was taking a woman who belonged by covenant to another patriarch.<br />
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Yahuwah later puts into place laws concerning adultery and marriage. Looking at these laws will help us to understand His mindset in this situation with Sarah.<br />
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<b>Devarim 22:22 If a man is found lying with a woman <u>married to a husband</u>, then they shall both die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shall you put away <u>evil</u> from Yisrael.</b><br />
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If a man (regardless of his marital status) has sexual relations with a married woman - they shall both be stoned to death. This is EVIL. This is unacceptable behavior for Yisra'elites. This is adultery. (The determination is based solely on the marital status of the woman)<br />
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<b>Devarim 22:23 If a damsel that is a <u>virgin is engaged to a husband</u>, and a man finds her in the city, and lies with her; 24 Then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city, and you shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he has humbled his neighbor's wife: so you shall put away <u>evil </u>from among you.</b><br />
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This law applies to a virgin who is engaged (more accurately - betrothed). Again, it is the status of the woman that makes the determination. It doesn't matter if the man is married or not. Being a betrothed virgin is legally binding upon the maiden as belonging to another man. The law also only applies within the city. If the girl claims that she was raped, yet doesn't cry out "RAPE!", she is also found guilty and they are both stoned. Again, this is called "evil" by YHWH. How many "Christian" pastors will condemn plural marriage from the pulpit, yet give this action a free pass?<br />
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<b>Devarim 22:25 But if a man finds an <u>engaged damsel in the field</u>, and the man forces her, and lies with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die. 26 But to the damsel you shall do nothing; there is in the damsel <u>no sin worthy of death</u>: for as when a man rises against his neighbor, and slays him, even so is this matter: 27 For he found her in the field, and the engaged damsel cried, and there was none to save her.</b><br />
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Again we see an engaged (betrothed) virgin. This is a rape scenario that occurs in the field (away from the city). Here, the man (married or not) only is put to death. The girl is compared with a murder victim and it said that she has no sin worthy of death. While the adjective "evil" is not expressly used, the comparison to murder makes that point clear.<br />
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<b>Devarim 22:28 If a man finds a damsel that is a <u>virgin, who is not engaged</u>, and lays hold of her, and lies with her, and they are found; 29 Then the man that lay with her shall give to the damsel's abba fifty shekels of silver, and<u> she shall be his wife</u>; because he has humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.</b><br />
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Wait a minute! What is this? Here we see that a virgin who is not engaged is raped by a man (married or not). There is no death penalty associated with adultery. The man's sentence? He must pay the girl's father and she becomes his wife "till death do us part". Now, before anyone goes accusing YHWH for promoting rape of innocent virgins, notice that the man is permanently stuck with this woman. What kind of wife do you think she will be to him, knowing that he raped her? Any man who has ever been in a horrible marriage can attest to the fact that a bad marriage is literally hell on earth. Such a man will be the first to spread the word of the horrible consequences of rape. But, see, that the man could have already been married, raped this virgin and now will spend the rest of his life under the weight of two simultaneous bad marriages! However, the point remains that the man would still be obligated to take a second wife. There is no mention of this being "evil" like in previous examples. Finally, to finish this section we see:<br />
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<b>Devarim 22:30 A man shall not take his <u>abba's wife</u>, nor discover his abba's skirt.</b><br />
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Why doesn't YHWH simply say "You shall not sleep with your mother"? Because Yisra'el was a polygamous nation! Polygamy was commonplace. So, by saying "your father's wife" all bases are covered. That is why we see so many laws <u>governing</u> polygamy, not forbidding it.<br />
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Now the previous conversation with Avimelech makes more sense. Avimelech thought he was betrothing himself to an unmarried woman. (An innocent act - even though he was a married man). Yet, in reality, he was trying to marry a woman that was already the property of another man. YHWH takes marriage and adultery VERY seriously. So should we. Further, our definitions of marriage and adultery must line up with His person and His word!<br />
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<br /><div class="blogger-post-footer">Yeshayahu 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man,
saying, “We shall eat our own food and wear our own clothes;
only let us be called by your name, to take away our reproach.”
Like us on Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Polygamy-Advocates/118848738195511</div>OnenessSainthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08879187512309306191noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1044388918123977154.post-8641883381562829122012-05-06T14:00:00.000-05:002012-05-06T14:00:20.666-05:0010 reasons to declare the truth of Torah Plural Marriage<br />
<b>By: Rabbi Samuel Thompson, BYSW, Australia</b><br />
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In a rural society, the relationship of men and women is abused in one way, and in modern society, it is abused in another way. It is being abused everywhere in the world, whichever form it adopts. In the rural society, polygamy is often abused. In this modern society, polygamy is forbidden, so I will address this side of the coin. Where there is abuse, there the truth will be declared. As a teacher of the Scriptures, this issue is not so much a personal belief or preference but a deeper truth to stand upon and be responsible for. The list is by no means exhaustive and it is impossible for any responsible man, after knowing it to keep quiet.<br />
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1. <span style="color: red;">The truth has to be taught.</span> Our fundamental values and understanding of the marriage institution are not according to the Word, and they have affected the way we live life and judge others. <span style="color: blue;">Simply, the truth has to be taught.</span><br />
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2. <span style="color: red;">The innocent are wrongfully mocked and ostracized in our society.</span> Modern society has wrongly despised, mocked and ostracized countless true polygamists (who might have done well and have been justified) before Yahuwah. They have been deprived of their rightful place in society. Their offspring are being discriminated as bastards and children of shame. <span style="color: blue;">Shouldn’t the truth be declared to defend the wrongly persecuted?</span><br />
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3. <span style="color: red;">The innocent are wrongfully shamed at the pulpit and deprived of their place in the congregation.</span> Many a polygamist has been deprived of community blessing. They are publicly shamed, preached against and wrongly imputed with the sin of adultery and fornication and condemned into hell fire by the modern Church. They have to cruelly give up the other wives and children before they can be "saved" or given membership in the church. <span style="color: blue;">What about this? How much do we care for the souls and their rightful place in Yahuwah’s Kingdom?</span><br />
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4. <span style="color: red;">The Assembly is deceived.</span> Historically, it is clear that the Roman-tic should-be monogamy is a theology that has its root, not from our patriarchal forefathers but from the heathen Roman and Babylonian religions. Emperor Nero killed the first wife to marry a second wife and banished the second to get a third, who influenced him to inflict unimaginable cruelty on the early Nazarenes. <span style="color: blue;">Do we not expose the works of the devil?</span><br />
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5. <span style="color: red;">The credibility of our founding fathers is being questioned.</span> The foundation of Yahuwah’s Kingdom is questioned and renounced, because by today’s "Christianity", our founding fathers like Abraham, Jacob, Moses and David are in effect considered as backward if not barbaric to have indulged in the "permissive sin" of polygamous adultery. If they were alive today, the "Church" would be erroneously ashamed of them before the world. They would be deprived of church membership, not mentioning their place as founding fathers, yet Yahuwah said in Deut 10:15 that He loves the fathers. Thus, we see the righteousness, holiness and the credibility of our founding fathers undermined. <span style="color: blue;">The heathen now set the standard of holiness for our forefathers, whose ignorant children (the church) are now judging them using the laws of the heathen. This must be rectified.</span><br />
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6. <span style="color: red;">True ministers have been wrongfully destroyed.</span> Nowhere in the Scriptures is it mentioned that ministers cannot be polygamous. In fact, there are implications that polygamous servants are acceptable. But in today’s "Christianity", many ministers have been floored, and forcefully thrown out of ministry by opportunists, while in truth, they not only should have been spared but justified, and lifted up as patriarchs. I am not justifying those who take another man’s wife, and those who commit adultery by scriptural definition. I am advocating for those would-be polygamous faithful ministers who have been grounded as fallen stars, robbed and destroyed by ambitious men who took occasion to rise. These have no excuse for not knowing the truth, for if they were led by the Spirit, they would not have destroyed the commanders of Yahuwah in this manner. <span style="color: blue;">The Kingdom is losing many mighty warriors because of untruth.</span><br />
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7. <span style="color: red;">From bondage to freedom and fulfillment.</span> Many, because of the anti-polygamy sentiment, stay in secrecy, fear, deprivation and loneliness instead of being set free into the liberty of the Word and fulfilment in their lives. Such, if not for the fear of what others might think or say, may on their own be willing to commit to a responsible polygamous life, but now shy away from doing what is responsible and rightful in their life. <span style="color: blue;">Do we not care for our fearful and deprived brothers and sisters? Someone will have to speak up for them</span>.<br />
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8. <span style="color: red;">It’s an instruction from Yahushua</span>. Yahushua said, if you love Me, keep My commandments. He also said that when we have the light, we should not keep it under the bed, but place it on the hilltop for all to see. There are those who see this truth but for fear of men and of discrimination and persecution, keep quiet. <span style="color: blue;">Do we not obey Moshiach? How much do we love Him?</span><br />
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9. <span style="color: red;">It teaches relationship with Yahuwah and depth in Moshiach</span>. Yahushua said that the deep relationship of Moshiach and His Called-Out Ones of Yahuwah and worthy men, is like a marriage, like that of groom and bride. So, if the forms and principles of the marriage relationship are not properly understood in the right light, the relationship with Yahuwah will never be properly comprehended, and those whom we are ministering to will never be set free. Yahushua told Rabbi Nicodemus, "If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things?" Yochannan/John 3:12. Thus, if one does not have the correct understanding of the natural marriage, he will never be free enough to understand the deeper things of Yahuwah, especially his relationship with Him, and he will never be able to bring others beyond where he is. <span style="color: blue;">We need to help others into the depths of Yahuwah if we truly love Him.</span><br />
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10.<span style="color: red;"> It’s an urgent answer for the world and Churchianity.</span> Anti-patriarchy means anti-submission to Yahuwah and spiritual leadership. Anti-polygamy means anti-sharing and exclusiveness. Both are the real causes of broken marriages. Both are anti-Moshiach (anti-Christ) and need to be changed. The teaching of patriarchal polygamy will bring about the restoration of Yahuwah’s truth and the right disposition of hearts in Yahuwah’s Kingdom. The hypocritical holiness of should-be monogamy is not answering the world’s need and the frustrated world is turning to homosexuality and lesbianism and are quickly being legalized and infiltrating the Churchianity. The monogamy idol will soon have to be abandoned for the new "homogamy" god if patriarchal polygamy is not quickly put in its right place. <span style="color: blue;">If we don’t live in the truth, Churchianity will be plagued and destroyed by untruth and sins.</span><br />
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11.<span style="color: red;"> It’s the restoration work of the spirit of Elijah.</span> Here is 1 more than 10. The Word of Yahuwah says that Elijah will come and turn the hearts of the children to the fathers whom Yahuwah said, He takes delight only in them (Deut 10:15). <span style="color: blue;">How about doing the Father’s work in the last days?</span><br />
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12. <span style="color: red;">The Called-Out are losing their spiritual women to the world.</span> Here is another 1 more than 11. Not only is it not wrong, but also in some cases scripturally right and noble for patriarchal men to look after more spiritual women, to take care of them so that they can continue to be committed to the Kingdom of Yahuwah, and not have to resort to marrying and subjecting themselves to unbelievers in order for this Yahuwah-given need to be met. Painfully, we see many spiritual women losing their call and contribution to the Kingdom and many times even their salvation because of marriage. This need not happen at all! How can we not take a hard look at this if we truly care for the Kingdom? And know that what is true will provide a solution to this problem. By this we will know that a truth is indeed TRUTH. <span style="color: blue;">Christianity is fighting a losing battle because of the lack of knowledge of the truth.</span><br />
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13.<span style="color: red;"> The truths regarding Biblical polygamy sets you free.</span> One more than 12. The blindness and darkness over many areas of life are shrouded in the anti-polygamy sentiment and in the misconceptions of Biblical Polygamy. Thus, the truths regarding Biblical Polygamy become the key to unlock the door to many other truths and freedom of life. <span style="color: blue;">It is but the key to true liberty and dynamism.</span><br />
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I have listed at least 10 not just good, but important reasons for patriarchal polygamy to be preached and taught.<br />
How can anybody understand these and still keep quiet? The truth will have to be restored, but not without a price! <span style="color: #cc0000;">Who will stand for Yahuwah?</span><br />
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<br /><div class="blogger-post-footer">Yeshayahu 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man,
saying, “We shall eat our own food and wear our own clothes;
only let us be called by your name, to take away our reproach.”
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Although Scripture clearly condemns polyandry (a woman having more than one husband, Romans 7:2-3), it does not condemn polygyny (a man having more than one wife). Yet, in today's false "Christian" culture (2 Timothy 3:1-5; 4:3; 2 Peter 2:1-3) this kind of polygamy (i.e. polygyny) is typically viewed as evil, even though the Word of Yahuwah never teaches any such thing (Mishle/Proverbs 4:27).<br />
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Popular "Bible teacher" John MacArthur exemplifies this presumption.<br />
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8:30,31 many wives. Gideon fell severely into the <u>sin of polygamy</u>, an iniquity tolerated by many but which never was YHWH's blueprint for marriage (Gen. 2:24). Abimelech, a son by yet another illicit relationship, grew up to be the wretched king in Judg. 9. Polygamy always resulted in trouble. (The MacArthur Study Bible, p.348, copyright 1997, Word Publishing)<br />
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MacArthur calls polygamy an "iniquity," faults Gideon for "the sin of polygamy," and calls polygamy and concubinage (Abimelech was the son of Gideon's concubine, Shoftim/Judges 8:31) "illicit" relationships. On page 37 of this same Study Bible MacArthur calls bigamy (having two wives) "open rebellion against Elohim" and a "violation of marriage law" (see MacArthur's footnote for B'reisheet/Genesis 4:19). The problem with this is, Scripture nowhere says any such thing (Mishle/Proverbs 30:5-6). When MacArthur maintains such heresy, he blasphemes (2 Timothy 3:2) Righteous men (e.g. Abraham, Caleb, Gideon, David, even Josiah, see MacArthur's footnote for 2 Kings 23:25), and teaches as doctrines the commandments of men (Mattithyahu/Matthew 15:8-9).<br />
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I. Polygamy Was Not Uncommon<br />
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As often as polygamy is recorded in Scripture, it is quite amazing how YHVH never condemns the practice. Both wicked men and righteous men were polygamous, and YHVH called neither to repent of it.<br />
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Lamech practiced polygamy (B'reisheet/Genesis 4:19). Avraham likewise had more than one wife (B'reisheet/Genesis 16:3-4; 25:6 "concubines"). Nahor, Avraham's brother, had both a wife and a concubine (Genesis 11:29; 22:20-24). Ya'akov was tricked into polygamy (Genesis 29:20-30), yet later he received two additional wives making a grand total of four wives (Genesis 30:4, 9). Esau took on a third wife hoping it might please his father Yitz'chak (Genesis 28:6-9). Ashur the father of Tekoa had two wives (1 Chronicles 4:5). Michael, Obadiah, Joel, Ishiah, and those with them "had many wives" (1 Chronicles 7:3-4). Shaharaim had at least four wives, two of which he "sent away" (1 Chronicles 8:8-11). Caleb had two wives (1 Chronicles 2:18) and two concubines (1 Chronicles 2:46, 48). Gideon had many wives (Shoftim/Judges 8:30).<br />
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Elkanah is recorded as having two wives, one of which was Hannah filled with the Spirit of Yahuwah (1 Samuel 1:1-2, 8-2:10). Dawid, a man after YHWH's own heart (1 Samuel 13:14; Acts 13:22), had at least 8 wives and 10 concubines (1 Chronicles 1:1-9; 2 Samuel 6:23; 20:3). Shlomo, who breached both Deuteronomy 7:1-4 and 17:14-17, had 700 wives and 300 concubines (1 Kings 11:1-6). Rehoboam had eighteen wives and sixty concubines (2 Chronicles 11:21), and sought many wives for his sons (1 Chronicles 11:23). Abijah had fourteen wives (2 Chronicles 13:21). Ahab had more than one wife (1 Kings 20:7). Yehoram had wives who were taken captive (2 Chronicles 21:17). Yehoiada the kohen gave king Yoash two wives (2 Chronicles 24:1-3), and Yehoiachin had more than one wife (2 Kings 24:15). Polygamy is mentioned several times over in the Bible and never once is polygamy condemned.<br />
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II. Polygamy Was Governed<br />
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Not only is polygyny not forbidden, but Yahuwah actually gave laws concerning its practice. For example, in Devarim 21 YHWH gave Moshe a law regarding a man who had two wives.</div>
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<b>"If a man has two wives, one loved and the other unloved, and they have borne him children, both the loved and the unloved, and if the firstborn son is of her who is unloved, then it shall be, on the day he bequeaths his possessions to his sons, that he must not bestow firstborn status on the son of the loved wife in preference to the son of the unloved, the true firstborn. But he shall acknowledge the son of the unloved wife as the firstborn by giving him a double portion of all that he has, for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his." (Deuteronomy 21:15-17)</b><br />
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This law does not condemn the man who has two wives. It simply governs how he deals with the offspring.<br />
Immediately before this passage, we find <b>Devarim 21:10-14.<br />When you go out to war against your enemies, and YHWH your Elohim delivers them into your hand, and you take them captive, and you see among the captives a beautiful woman, and desire her and would take her for your wife, then you shall bring her home to your house, and she shall shave her head and trim her nails. She shall put off the cloths of her captivity, remain in your house, and mourn her father and her mother a full month; after that you may go in to her and be her husband, and she shall be your wife. And it shall be, if you have no delight in her, then you shall set her free, but you certainly shall not sell her for money; you shall not treat her brutally, because you have humbled her.</b><br />
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Here YHWH makes no mention as to whether "you" are already married or not. He simply gives the Yisra'elites the permission to marry a captive girl and how to deal with her. This law applies to either a single man or a married man, and in its application of a married man, YHVH is giving permission for polygamy. In fact, this passage rests in that very context, because the very next statement after verse 14 is, <b>"If a man has two wives, . . ." (Deuteronomy 21:15)</b>.</div>
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Another interesting law in the light of polygamy is found in <b>Deuteronomy 25:5-10.<br /><br />If brothers dwell together, and one of them dies and has no son, the widow of the dead man shall not be married to a stranger outside the family; her husband's brother shall go in to her, take her as his wife, and perform the duty of a husband's brother to her. And it shall be that the firstborn son which she bears will succeed to the name of his dead brother, that his name may not be blotted out of Yisra'el.</b><br />
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<b>But if the man does not want to take his brother's wife, then let his brother's wife go up to the gate to the elders, and say, "My husband's brother refuses to raise up a name to his brother in Yisra'el; he will not perform the duty of my husband's brother." Then the elders of his city shall call him and speak to him. But if he stands firm and says, "I do not want to take her," then his brother's wife shall come to him in the presence of the elders, remove his sandal from his foot, spit in his face, and answer and say, "So shall it be done to the man who will not build up his brother's house." And his name shall be called in Yisra'el, "The house of him who had his sandal removed."</b><br />
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This passage requires the living brother to marry his brother's wife, and there is absolutely no statement whatsoever in regards to the living brother's marital status. He could be single, or he could already be married. The passage says nothing either way. All that is said is,<br />
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<b>If brothers dwell together, and one of them dies and has no son, the widow of the dead man shall not be married to a stranger outside the family; her husband's brother shall go in to her, take her as his wife, and perform the duty of a husband's brother to her.</b><br />
If the living brother was already married, then we have here a command from Yahuwah for a man to have a polygamous relationship. If the living brother was already married, in order to obey YHWH, the man would be required to have more than one wife. If he refused to do so, he would be spit in the face and bear reproach (Deuteronomy 25:9-10).<br />
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Similarly, if a married man were to have sex with a virgin who was not betrothed, he would be required to marry her, and thus end up with another wife.<br />
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<b>If a man entices a virgin who is not betrothed, and lies with her, he shall surely pay the bride-price for her to be his wife. If her father utterly refuses to give her to him, he shall pay money according to the bride-price of virgins. (Exodus 22:16-17; see also Deuteronomy 22:28-29)</b><br />
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Here again there is no specification on whether the man is married or not. Therefore, this law would apply to both a single or married man.<br />
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Another law regarding polygamy can be found in VaYikra 18:18. Here YHVH forbids, not polygamy, but rather the taking on of a rival sister while the other is still alive.<br />
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Nor shall you take a woman <u>as a rival to her sister</u>, to uncover her nakedness while the other is alive.<br />
In other words, YHWH forbids a man to take his wife's sister as a wife for the purpose of rivalry.<br />
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YHWH also did not allow a man to marry a woman and her mother.<br />
If a man marries a woman and her mother, it is wickedness. They shall be burned with fire, both he and they, that there may be no wickedness among you. (Leviticus 20:14)<br />
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These laws (Leviticus 18:18 & 20:14) do not prohibit polygamy, but rather they ban <b>certain acts</b> of polygamy. Just the same as we are commanded not to murder. However, under <u>certain circumstances</u>, a man's life may be taken (war, punishment, etc).<br />
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Finally, there is one passage in Devarim that some may think condemns polygamy, but, the truth of the matter is, it actually allows it. For the king, <b>Devarim 17:14-17</b> places a very general limit to the practice of polygamy.<br />
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<b>When you come to the land which YHWH your Elohim is giving you, and possess it and dwell in it, and say, "I will set a king over me like all the nations that are around me," you shall surely set a king over you whom YHWH your Elohim chooses; one from among your brethren you shall set as king over you; you may not set a foreigner over you, who is not your brother. But he shall not multiply horses for himself, nor cause the people to return to Mitsrayim, to multiply horses, for YHWH has said to you, "You shall not return that way again." Neither shall he multiply wives for himself, lest his heart turn away; nor shall he greatly multiply silver and gold for himself.</b><br />
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This law is given for the king of the land. There is no such law concerning the common Yisra'elite. In other words, if a Yisra'elite were to multiply wives for himself, he would not be breaching this law or any other command from Elohim, because no such command exists. This law does not apply to everyone. It only applies to the king.<br />
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Now, does the law say the king cannot have more than one wife? No, it does not. In fact, please note there are three other things the king is not to "multiply for himself," horses, silver, and gold. Could he have a few horses? Certainly, David had at least 100 horses (2 Samuel 8:4), and in this, he did not disobey Yahuwah (1 Kings 15:5). Could a king have some silver and gold? Indeed, David had silver and gold (2 Samuel 12:30; 24:24), and he did not disobey YHWH (1 Kings 15:5). Likewise, could a king have a few wives? Yes he could. David had at least 8 wives and 10 concubines (2 Samuel 3:14; 15:16; 1 Chronicles 3:1-9), and was not disobedient against YHWH in doing so; as <b>1 Kings 15:5</b> says,<br />
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<b>David did what was right in the eyes of YHWH, and had not turned aside from anything that He commanded him all the days of his life, except in the matter of Uriah the Hittite.</b><br />
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As for a king who breached Devarim 17:17, Shlomo is the classic example. He had 700 wives and 300 concubines (1 Kings 11:3). Yet, even though Shlomo obviously multiplied wives to himself, YHWH condemns Shlomo, in particular, for his marriage of foreign women (1 Kings 11:1-2; Deuteronomy 7:1-4) and the resultant idolatry (1 Kings 11:4). Yahuwah mentions Shlomo's multiple wives (1 Kings 11:3), but the focus of YHWH's anger is upon Shlomo allowing himself to be seduced by his wives (1 Kings 11:9-10). The focus is not upon how many wives he possessed, but rather upon the marriage of foreign women and how they seduced him into idolatry.<br />
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Interesting to note in this polygamous context is the statement about Dawid in <b>1 Kings 11:6.<br />Shlomo did evil in the sight of YHWH, and did not fully follow YHWH, as did his father Dawid.</b><br />
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Even though Dawid had at least 8 wives and ten concubines, Dawid fully followed YHWH.<br />
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Polygamy was the pattern of Dawid's life. He practiced it unrepentantly. Those who claim Dawid sinned by practicing polygamy (e.g. MacArthur and company) unwittingly proclaim Dawid was of the devil, because <b>1 John 3:8 says, "He who sins is of the devil."</b> Yet, that is contrary to the word of YHWH himself!<br />
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III. Polygamy Included Concubinage<br />
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Some today may think that concubinage in the Scriptures was a form of an immoral sexual relationship similar to having a personal mistress. Webster's Third New International Dictionary gives this kind of a definition for "concubine" as one possible meaning.<br />
concubine . . . b: a woman who cohabits with a man without being his wife: MISTRESS (p. 472, copyright 1986, unabridged)<br />
The Hebrew word for concubine is (pilegesh), and it is used for an illicit sexual relationship, but only once.<br />
For she lusted for her paramours, whose flesh is like the flesh of donkeys, and whose issue is like the issue of horses. (Ezekiel 23:20)<br />
Here in Ezekiel 23:20, the Hebrew word for concubine is translated "paramours." A paramour is an illicit sexual lover indeed, and the context of this passage supports this translation. It is speaking of a woman with her male immoral partners (paramours). The "concubines," so to speak, are male here, not female.<br />
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With Ezekiel 23:20 excluded, every time pilegesh is used it speaks of a female concubine that is married to her male partner. Keturah is called Avraham's concubine in 1 Chronicles 1:32, but in Genesis 25:1 she is called Avraham's wife. Dawid's ten concubines are indeed called concubines, but they are also called his wives by YHWH Himself (2 Samuel 12:11; 16:21-22). In Shoftim/Judges 19 & 20 the Levite's concubine "played the harlot" (Judges 19:2) and left "her husband" (Judges 19:3).<br />
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She is called a concubine in Judges 19:1, 2, 9, 24, 25, 29; 20:4 and 5, yet at the same time, her male partner, the Levite, is called "her husband" in Judges 19:3 and 20:4. Moreover, the concubine's father is called the "father-in-law" (Judges 19:4, 7, 9), and the Levite is called the "son-in-law" (Judges 19:5). Clearly, concubinage is displayed as a marital commitment.<br />
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So, what is the difference between a "wife" and a "concubine"? Wives are free, concubines are not. Scripture portrays concubinage as the marriage of a slave girl. Note VaYikra 19:20.<br />
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Whoever lies carnally with a woman who is betrothed to a man as a concubine, and who has not at all been redeemed nor given her freedom, for this there shall be scourging; but they shall not be put to death, because she was not free.<br />
Betrothal depicts marriage (Devarim 28:30), and here in VaYikra 19:20 we have the marriage (betrothal) of a slave girl to a man. Being a slave, she is called a concubine, and for this immoral act she is not killed as a free woman would be (Devarim 22:23-24), "because she was not free."<br />
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In Shoftim, the concubine's husband is twice called "her master" (Shoftim 19:26, 27). Other concubines are identified likewise. Bilhah, Ya'akov's concubine (B'reisheet 35:22), whom Rachel gave to him for a wife (B'reisheet 30:3-4), was a slave (B'reisheet 35:25 "maidservant"). Likewise, Zilpah was a slave-wife (B'reisheet 35:26; 30:9). Marrying a slave girl was not only practiced; it was legislated in the law of Elohim as well.<br />
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<b>And if a man sells his daughter to be a female slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. If she does not please her master, who has betrothed her to himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He shall have no right to sell her to a foreign people, since he has dealt deceitfully with her. And if he has betrothed her to his son, he shall deal with her according to the custom of daughters. If he takes another wife, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, and her marriage rights. And if he does not do these three for her, then she shall go out free, without paying money. (Shemot 21:7-11; see also Devarim 21:10-14)</b><br />
Notice it does not say, "He cannot take another wife." It says, "If he takes another wife." Here we have another law concerning polygamy and it is not forbidden.<br />
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Although some today may view concubinage as an evil deed, Leah, in the Scriptures, viewed it as part of that which pleased YHWH.<br />
<b>And YHWH listened to Leah, and she conceived and bore Ya'akov a fifth son. Leah said, "YHWH has given me my wages, because I have given my maid to my husband." So she called his name Issachar. (B'reisheet 30:17-18)</b><br />
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Leah had given Zilpah, her slave, to Ya'akov as a wife because she perceived that she had stopped bearing children (B'reisheet 30:9). Yet, she continued to pray for more sons. Yahuwah heard her plea ("YHWH listened to Leah"), and Leah understood this to be a reward from YHWH for giving Ya'akov a concubine.<br />
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IV. Polygamy Today<br />
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In the beginning YHWH indeed formed one man and one woman and the two became one flesh (B'reisheet 2:24; B'reisheet 1:31; Mark 10:6-8). Whether it be in a monogamous marriage or a polygamous marriage, the two still become one flesh. However, polygamy is NOT illegal in the U.S! What is illegal is Bigamy. (Having "state-reconignized" civil unions with more than one person at a time) Besides, in cases where polygamy is COMMANDED, do we obey the state or YHVH? (For more on this, please see the posts "<a href="http://polygamyadvocate.blogspot.com/2012/04/to-whom-are-you-married.html" target="_blank">To Whom are you married</a>" and "<a href="http://polygamyadvocate.blogspot.com/2012/04/marriage-covenants.html" target="_blank">Marriage Covenants</a>")<br />
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The man becomes one flesh with each of his wives. We know this by the fact that even if a man has sex with a harlot, he nonetheless becomes one flesh with her (1 Corinthians 6:16). Therefore, the two becoming one still applies to each union in a polygamous marriage.<br />
Mishle/Proverbs 18:22 says, "He who finds a wife finds a good thing, and obtains favor from YHWH." It's a good thing to find a wife, and who's to say it's an evil thing to find more than one? Elohim doesn't say any such thing, and neither should we!<br />
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<br /></div><div class="blogger-post-footer">Yeshayahu 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man,
saying, “We shall eat our own food and wear our own clothes;
only let us be called by your name, to take away our reproach.”
Like us on Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Polygamy-Advocates/118848738195511</div>OnenessSainthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08879187512309306191noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1044388918123977154.post-81816836542590945442012-05-06T09:30:00.000-05:002012-05-06T10:20:58.571-05:00Polygamist Spotlight #3 - Avraham<span style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">One of the most famous, and least understood polygamist in scripture is Avraham. This man was the first Hebrew (crossed over). According to history and legend he left his pagan father's house and set out to find and worship the One True El. Consider the following excerpt from <a href="http://www.newcovenantpatriarchy.com/images/uploads/Man_&_Woman_in_Biblical_Law_5.pdf" target="_blank">Tom Shipley's "Man and Woman in Biblical Law"</a></span></span><br />
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<b style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">B'reisheet 16:1-4:</span></b><br />
<b style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">1 Now Sarai, Abram’s wife, bare him no children: and she had a handmaid, a Mitsrite</span></b><b style="background-color: black; color: white;">, whose name was Hagar. 2 And Sarai said unto Abram, Behold now, </b><span style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px;"><b>יהוה </b></span><b style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;"> hath restrained me from bearing: I pray thee, go in unto my maid; it may be </span></b><b style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">that I may obtain children by her. 3 And Sarai, Abram’s wife, took Hagar her maid, </span></b><b style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">the Mitsrite, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her </span></b><b style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">to her husband Abram to be his wife. 4 And he went in unto Hagar, and she</span></b><br />
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<span style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">Of all the examples of polygamy in Scripture, Avraham’s is one of the most relevant to the question </span></span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">of the lawfulness thereof. John Knox, the great Reformer, once argued that the Biblical incidents or </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">examples of polygamy cannot inform us of the issue of law:</span><br />
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<i style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">“The men that object the same are not altogether ignorant that examples have no </span></i><i style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">strength when the question is of law. As if I should ask, what marriage is lawful? And </span></i><i style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">it should be answered that lawful it is to a man, not only to have many wives at once, </span></i><i style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">but it is also lawful to marry two sisters and to enjoy them both living at once, </span></i><i style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">because that David, Jacob, and Solomon, servants of God, did the same. I trust that </span></i><i style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">no man would justify the vanity of this reason...for examples may establish no law </span></i><i style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">(emph. supp.-T.S.), but we are bound to the law written and to the commandment </span></i><i style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">expressed in the same.” —John Knox, “The First Blast of the Trumpet Against the </span></i><i style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">Monstrous Regiment of Women,” pg. 63-64</span></i><br />
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<span style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">I have no qualm with Knox’s logic here. It is sound. An example of conduct certainly does not justify </span></span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">the conduct or establish any kind of norm. I trust that the reader will perceive that such is not the </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">argument being advocated here. It is to be wished that the monogamy-only proponents would be </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">rationally consistent in advocating this point when it comes to the example of Adam’s supposed monogamy, and confess that “examples may establish no law.”</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">Knox’s comments, however, treat the subject of polygamy as if it exists in isolation, apart from other </span></span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">textual factors which contribute to an understanding of polygamy’s legal status. For example, if all we </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">know about the man is that he was a polygamist, then this tells us nothing about the legal status of </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">polygamy. But if we add to the fact of polygamy the additional fact that the man was declared by </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px;">יהוה </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">Himself to be a righteous and obedient man of </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px;">יהוה</span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;"> , then this certainly is relevant to the question of </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">the lawfulness of polygamy. For if polygamy is disobedience against
</span><span style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px;">יהוה</span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;"> , then the man who is a </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">polygamist cannot be declared obedient.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">If polygamy is nothing but the heinous sin of adultery, then a man’s polygamy must reflect negatively </span></span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">upon the moral evaluation of the polygamist. But if we know that the polygamist was righteous, then </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">a strong presumption, if not certainty, is created in favor of the proposition that polygamy is lawful. </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">Adultery is not a peccadillo in
</span><span style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px;">יהוה</span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;"> ’s eyes. It is a “great” and heinous sin. It is a form of wickedness </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">for which the Scripture commands the death penalty. Adultery, especially continual unrepented of </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">adultery, cannot be simply overlooked or ignored.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">John Knox’s valid logical observation that an example of conduct cannot settle a question of law is </span></span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">just too simplistic to answer the question of the relevance of David’s, Jacob’s, and Solomon’s </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">polygamy. David, Jacob, and Solomon (despite later failures) were all righteous men. They were also </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">polygamists. Moreover, when David committed murder and adultery, he was severely rebuked and </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">punished for both of these sins. Yet nowhere was he (or anyone else) ever condemned for polygamy. </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">How is this to be explained except by the proposition that polygamy is lawful? </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">If it be objected that, “If the polygamy of a righteous man implies the lawfulness of polygamy, then </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">why can’t we turn the logic right around and conclude that the polygamy of an unrighteous man </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">implies the unlawfulness of polygamy?” We have already touched upon this question in regard to </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">Lamech. Many aspects of the lives of the righteous and unrighteous are the same. The fact that many </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">of the unrighteous do many of the lawful things that the righteous do does not make them righteous. </span><span style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">The unrighteous are so by virtue of the fact that there remain other sins unrepented of. If, then, </span></span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">polygamy constitutes adultery, or is otherwise unlawful, then he who practices polygamy and does </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">not repent must be counted among the unrighteous. If a polygamist is otherwise unrighteous (i.e., </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">Lamech), this tells us nothing of the status of polygamy. But if we know both that a man is righteous </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">and also a polygamist, then we may rationally conclude that polygamy is lawful. </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">There is another exegetical factor in regard to Avraham and Ya'akov which makes the lawfulness of </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">polygamy virtually certain even without any other supporting evidence.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">Consider <b>B'reisheet 18:17-19:</b></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px;">יהוה</span> said, Shall I hide from Avraham that thing which I do; 18 Seeing </b></span></span><b style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">that Avraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of </span></b><b style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">the earth blessed in him? 19 For I know him, that he will command his children </span></b><b style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of
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<span style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">And one more relevant statement regarding Abraham:</span></span><br />
<b style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">Because that Avraham <u>obeyed my voice</u>, and <u>kept</u> my charge, my commandments, </span></b><b style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">my statutes, and my laws. —B'reisheet 26:5</span></b><br />
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<span style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;"><span style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px;">יהוה</span>’s statement to Ya'akov in B'reisheet 26:5 plainly shows that His revelation to Avraham of His laws </span></span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">was very extensive. Unquestionably, the proper regulation of marriage is included in this statement </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">(e.g. Genesis 20). We are explicitly told directly from the mouth of
</span><span style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px;">יהוה</span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;"> Himself that both Avraham </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">and his household would “keep the way of
</span><span style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px;">יהוה</span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;"> ,” and then after the fact, that Avraham had in fact </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">done so. Now “keeping” the way of
</span><span style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px;">יהוה</span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;"> obviously excludes the notion that Avraham violated the </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">way of
</span><span style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px;">יהוה</span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;"> , yet if we are to believe the traditional line about polygamy, then Avraham was an </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">egregious unrepentant violator of
</span><span style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px;">יהוה</span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;"> ’s Law. And, indeed, if polygamy constitutes adultery, or is </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">otherwise unlawful, then that conclusion is inescapable. One cannot commit a “great” sin and live in </span><span style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">it for many years without repentance, and still be said to be obedient or righteous. </span></span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">The conclusion to be drawn from these considerations is inevitable: if Avraham and Ya'akov kept the </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">way of
</span><span style="background-color: black; color: white; font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px;">יהוה</span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;"> and were also polygamists, then it follows by logical necessity that polygamy must </span><span style="background-color: black; color: white;">be lawful.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">Shipley does a beautiful job here of illustrating the lawfulness of polygamy through the example of Avraham. However, I think that two very important points are left out.</span></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">1) As I have pointed out several times in past posts, Avraham, who had at least three wives, is used as an example of righteousness by our Master, Yahushua.</span></span><br />
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<b style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">Mattithyahu 8:11 And I say to you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Avraham, and Yitzchak, and Yaakov, in the malchut ha shamayim.</span></b><br />
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<span style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">The very company of these men (at least two of the three were polygamists) is promised by our Master as a reward for the faithful. If these men were perverted adulterers, would Yahushua have made such a promise?</span></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">Rav Sha'ul, who warned many times about adultery and sexual perversion included our father, Avraham in his list of the faithful in <b>Ivrim 11.</b></span></span><br />
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<b style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">8 By emunah Avraham, when he was called to go out into</span></b><br />
<b style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">a place that he would later receive as an inheritance,</span></b><br />
<b style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">obeyed; and he went out, not knowing where he</span></b><br />
<b style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">was going.</span></b><br />
<b style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">9 By emunah he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a</span></b><br />
<b style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">strange country, dwelling in tents with Yitzchak and</span></b><br />
<b style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">Yaakov, the heirs with him of the same promise: 1</span></b><br />
<b style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">10 For he looked for a city that has foundations, whose</span></b><br />
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<span style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">Avraham is sited as a man who obeyed on faith!</span></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: white;">So we have the testimonies of <span style="font-family: sans-serif;"><span style="line-height: 19px;">יהוה, Moshe, Yahushua and Sha'ul that Avraham was a righteous, obedient man of faith. How dare anyone claim that polygamists are perverts who only want to satisfy the lusts of the flesh! Shame on you! These men were MARRIED according to </span></span>
<span style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px;">יהוה</span> <span style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px;">. They were righteous according to </span><span style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px;">יהוה. If your definitions of marriage and perversion don't align with </span>
<span style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px;">יהוה</span> <span style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px;">'s, then YOU need to repent and fall in line with Him - not the other way around!</span></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: sans-serif;"><span style="background-color: black; color: white; line-height: 19px;">2) While not technically a polygamist, I think much can be said about Sarah in the life of Avraham. Sarah was also listed by Sha'ul in the roll call of great faith. She gave her husband her maid to be his wife in order for him to be able to produce children while in her barren condition. She obeyed her husband and called him "Adon" (Master). She is sighted as the role model for wives everywhere. So much can be said about Sarah that I want to devote an entire article about her at a later time. For now, let us all pray that women everywhere will follow her example and become obedient wives submitted to the authority of their patriarchal heads.</span></span><br />
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saying, “We shall eat our own food and wear our own clothes;
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1) Man was made in Yahuwah's image. We know that Yahushua is the express image of YHWH's person. (Ivrim/Hebrews 1:3). And we know that Yahushua kept a beard. (Yeshayahu/Isaiah 50:6). It was always the custom of Yisra'elites to wear beards. Thus, to mar or shave the beard is an attack on the very image of Yahuwah.<br />
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2) Yahuwah is very clear that men are to look, act and dress like men; women are to look, act and dress as women. It is an abomination for a man to wear a woman's garments. The beard was given to man as part of his "manliness." Therefore, men should look masculine and wear a beard.<br />
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3) Historically, shaving the beard is a custom practiced by pagan cultures (most notably those that practiced homosexuality). Yahushua gave His talmidim clear instructions not to act like pagans.<br />
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4) From scripture, we read the account of an incident that happened to some of Melech Dawid's men. They had half of their beards removed. <br />
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<b>2Sa 10:4 So Ḥanun took Dawiḏ’s servants and shaved off half of their beards, and cut off their garments in the middle, as far as their buttocks, and sent them away. </b><br />
<b>2Sa 10:5 And they informed Dawiḏ, and he sent to meet them, because the men were <u>greatly ashamed</u>. And the sovereign said, “Wait at Yeriḥo until your beards have grown, and then return.”</b> <br />
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It was a very shameful thing to have your beard shaved. Notice that the Melech didn't shave the other half of their beards and send them back to their families. On the contrary, he told them to wait in Jericho until their beards had grown to spare them the shame.<br />
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When else were beards shaven? When someone was cured of leprosy. (Lev. 14:9) <br />
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5) The Kohanim (priests) were commanded to not mar the corners of their beards. Having such a defect would exclude someone from serving in the Temple. We are to be a royal priesthood. (1 Peter/Kepha Alef 2:9) Therefore, as His priests, we should wear beards. <br />
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6) Yirmeyahu/Jeremiah 41:4-7 tells us what happens to shaved men practicing idolatry in the name of YHWH.<br />
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7) One of the curses that YHWH pronounces on Moab is to have their beards shaven. It seems obvious that YHWH doesn't consider being shaved a good thing.<br />
<b>Yirmeyahu 48:37 “For every head is bald, and every beard clipped – cuts on all the hands, and sackcloth on the loins.</b> (They shaved their beards as a sign of immense weeping)<br />
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8) Yezekiel HaNavi was commanded to shave his head and beard as a testimony against unrighteous Yisra'el. This hair was placed on scales and divided. Since the Kohanim kept their hair short, this pile of hair must have come predominantly from his beard.<br />
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9) We know that this world hates the things of Yahuwah. This world hates beards. Our very language proclaims this. Men are called "CLEAN shaven" or they look like a "DIRTY hippie"with a beard. Whose Malchut/Kingdom do we want to be a part of? Yahuwah's (bearded) kingdom or the enemy's shaven kingdom? Pray that Yah will move upon the heart's of men to stand up and be REAL men - with beards!<br />
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10) "Into the fire down below, that's where the beardless people go. Where forever they will rot, for all the beards they haven't got." "There's just nothing better than a beard" -The Beards of Australia.<br />
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saying, “We shall eat our own food and wear our own clothes;
only let us be called by your name, to take away our reproach.”
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-Sha'ul<div class="blogger-post-footer">Yeshayahu 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man,
saying, “We shall eat our own food and wear our own clothes;
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<br /><div class="blogger-post-footer">Yeshayahu 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man,
saying, “We shall eat our own food and wear our own clothes;
only let us be called by your name, to take away our reproach.”
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saying, “We shall eat our own food and wear our own clothes;
only let us be called by your name, to take away our reproach.”
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<b>Untwisting the Twisting of Proverbs 31</b><br />
<b>By The Ramyk</b><br />
<b>Rabbi Apostle Moshe Yoseph Koniuchowsky</b><br />
<b>Moon 9 Day 3 5971 SC (roughly)</b><br />
<b>Roman date November 27 2011</b><br />
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Many who have not yet had the revelation of the restoration of biblical marriage at the end of this<br />
age, continue to misuse Proverbs 31, even as they do with Matthew 19. In Matthew 19, as we have<br />
clearly shown elsewhere, Yahushua does not discuss monogamy over polygyny, or even that<br />
monogamy was the original design. (We have shown elsewhere that a very strong case can be made from the<br />
Book of Genesis that Adam had 2 wives. Therefore patriarchy, woman made for man and neither monogamy nor<br />
polygyny was the original pattern.) Please see:<br />
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<a href="http://polygamyadvocate.blogspot.com/2010/06/adam-polygamist.html" target="_blank">Adam the Polygamist</a><br />
<a href="http://yourarmstoisrael.org/Articles_new/articles/PDFs/The%20Mystery%20of%20the%20Tree%20Pt%202%20Did%20Adam%20Have%20Two%20Wives.pdf" target="_blank">Did Adam Really Have Two Wives?</a><br />
The Rebirth of Yisraelite Marriage pages 8-15:<br />
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In Matthew 19 the Moshiach warns the leaders against divorce on demand. He teaches that any man<br />
that marries an undivorced woman commits fornication, causing the woman to commit adultery. Or<br />
anyone that divorces their spouse for any reason other than unfaithfulness commits adultery.<br />
Please see: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1599164825/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=polygadvoc-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1599164825" target="_blank">The Rebirth of Yisraelite Marriage</a> pages 7-8,289-292.<br />
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Since polygyny is blessed and many were in YHWH’s perfect will in its practice, Yahushua cannot<br />
allegedly come along in Matthew 19 and simply curse or disallow what Torah calls a blessing when<br />
properly regulated and done correctly. If that is what Yahushua allegedly did and taught, then He<br />
could not qualify as the Messiah; for the Messiah would come to AFFIRM YHWH’S ways and not<br />
override them in a new dispensation.<br />
Yahushua said this in Matthew 5:17-18:<br />
17 Think not that I am come to weaken, or destroy the Torah, or the neviim: I have not come to<br />
weaken, or destroy, <u>but to completely reveal it in its intended fullness</u>.<br />
18 For truly I say to you, Until the current shamayim and earth pass away, <u>not one yud, or one</u><br />
<u>nekudah</u> shall by any means pass from the Torah, until all be fulfilled.<br />
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Let’s now seek to untwist the traditional messy religious teachings of Mishle-Proverbs 31.<br />
Chapter 31:<br />
1The words of melech Lemu-El, <u style="background-color: yellow;">a message that his eema taught him.</u><br />
2 What, my son? And what, the son of my womb? And what, the son of my vows?<br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">Marital vows that birthed her son and here is the patriarchal message!</span><br />
3 Give not your strength to <u>women</u>, nor your halachot to that which destroys melechim.<br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">The warning is that when a man takes more than one covenant wife that the patriarch does not turn</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">over lordship (strength) or his priesthood to these women. The very fact that she warns him about</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">women and not a single woman, shows that this is acceptable in Hebraic culture, which predates</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">Islam, Mormonism or any other kind of religious perversion</span>.<br />
4 It is not for melechim, O Lemu-El, it is not for melechim to drink wine; nor for rulers to drink strong<br />
drink:<br />
5 Lest they drink, and forget the Torah, and pervert the mishpat of any of the afflicted.<br />
6 Give strong drink to him that is ready to perish, and wine to those that are of heavy levavot.<br />
7 Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more.<br />
<u><b>8 Open your mouth for those who cannot speak for themselves and are appointed to destruction.</b></u><br />
<u><b>9 Open your mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.</b></u><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">This is why I have spoken publicly and prophetically at this point in time. So that my mouth may</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">speak forth and declare the ways of the Master Yahushua. And for those who cannot speak for</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">themselves and for those who are called to live a polygynous lifestyle, yet do not have the platform</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">that Yah has granted me. I would rather make enemies because I teach the truth in love, than to</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">allow the guiltless and the righteous that practice plural marriage continue to be castigated and</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">lumped in with the perverts of society. The media piles on an occasional abuse in the lifestyle, but</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">never highlights or accentuates the positive examples. They use unjust weights and measures against</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">plural marriage, without ever sighting the grandiose abuses in monogamy, and the overwhelming</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">fact that 99% of domestic, child and spousal abuses, with their subsequent restraining orders, are</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">perpetrated by monogamists, in a society bent on mandating monogamy. That is why we must speak</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">up and we must be heard!</span><br />
10 Who can find a <u>virtuous woman</u>? 1 For her price is far above rubies.<br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">Nowhere does this question limit the amount or number of covenant virtuous women. That has for</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">too long been read into the verse.</span><br />
11 The lev of her husband does safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.<br />
12 She will do him tov and not evil all the days of her chayim.<br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">She will serve his vision and his calling not her own.</span><br />
13 She seeks wool, and linen, and works willingly with her hands.<br />
14 She is like the merchants’ ships; she brings her food from far.<br />
1 In this verse starts the eshet chayil, or “virtuous woman” chapter.<br />
15 She rises also while it is still night, and provides food to her household, <u>and a portion to her young</u><br />
<u>women</u>.<br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">Every patriarch needs a matriarch. The matriarch is the first wife who in my view should be the most</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">emotionally and spiritual mature one. She is to lovingly guide and teach the younger and the less</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">experienced in marriage. She prepares food or breakfast in this case before the day starts at sunrise,</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">for both her patriarchal husband as well as HER YOUNG WOMEN. In a biblical Hebraic family, the</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">younger women become her responsibility, as she mentors and provides for them, along with her</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">husband, their portions because she is the most virtuous. Now just because she is the matriarch and</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">called to be the esht chayil-virtous wife, that does not mean that there are not other virtuous</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">women-wives in the home being raised up and cared for by the first virtuous woman. Just the</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">opposite is true here, as we see other women sharing her home and assisting her in her business</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">ventures.</span><br />
16 She considers a field, and buys it: with the fruit of her hands she plants a vineyard.<br />
17 She girds her loins with strength, and <u>strengthens her arms</u>.<br />
18 She perceives that her merchandise is tov: her lamp goes not out at night.<br />
19 She lays her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the linen.<br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">She is a business lady within the confines of the home bringing business into the home. Her arms are</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">a metaphor for the other young women living and assisting in the home</span>.<br />
20 She stretches out her hand to the poor; yes, she reaches out her hands to the needy.<br />
21 She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all of her household is clothed in scarlet.<br />
22 She makes herself quilts; her clothing is silk and purple.<br />
23 Her husband is known in the gates, when he sits among the zechanim of the land.<br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">Her submission along with his other wives brings him honor in the community</span>.<br />
24 She makes fine linen, and sells it; and delivers girdles to the merchants.<br />
25 Strength and honor are her clothing; and she shall gilah in time to come.<br />
26 She opens her mouth with chochmah; and on her tongue is the Torah of chesed.<br />
27 She looks well to the halachot of her household, and eats not the lechem of idleness.<br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">The virtuous woman is a Torah keeper guarding both her husband and the young wives entrusted to</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">her care. She contributes both Torah knowledge and kindness and mercy to both her husband and</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">sister wives</span>.<br />
28 Her children in Yisrael rise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praises her:<br />
29 <u>Many daughters have done virtuously, but you have risen over them all</u>.<br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">A careful look at verse 29 again brings home the principle of Hebraic marriage. Who are these many</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">daughters? They are the daughters of Israel in the same home, under patriarchy, that are also called</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">virtuous. In context, these are NOT biological daughters, as children who are pre- puberty cannot be</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">mature enough emotionally or spiritually to be called virtuous. If we remain consistent in our</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">interpretation of Scripture and if the virtuous adjective applies to the first MORE VIRTOUS wife,</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">then the exact same description MUST apply to the other younger less virtuous wives! The first by</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">virtue of her matriarchal blessing and responsibility, is among the virtuous daughters’ of Zion, but</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">has risen above them all! Her husband praises her for her great love, character and selfless Hebraic</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">lifestyle as do her children.</span><br />
30 <b>Favor is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that fears YHWH, she shall be given tehilla</b>.<br />
31 Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own mitzvoth praise her in the gates.<br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">It is not about who is the most beautiful, or the youngest, but who is the most virtuous. The most</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">virtuous who is able to rise above them all, she is the one that shall be praised; for she has risen</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">highest and with dignity and honor in her most noble calling</span>.<br />
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<b>With this correct and consistent view of Scripture, we can thank YHWH even more for His ways,</b><br />
<b>which remain eternally higher than our own ways and where the Yisraelite home is being restored</b><br />
<b>as the training center for virtuous Israelite men and women. The Israelite home must reflect</b><br />
<b>Yahushua’s home, where He deals with many wives, as seen in Matthew 25, some wise and</b><br />
<b>virtuous, some foolish. The Proverbs 31 model fits that of Yahushua and His patriarchal order, as</b><br />
<b>metaphorically taught and seen in Matthew chapter 25. Selah!</b>
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<b>Was Monogamy the Original Perfect Pattern?</b><br />
<b>The Hebrew Holds the Key</b><br />
<b>By The RAMYK</b><br />
<b>Moon 8 Day 22 5992 SC</b><br />
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Who was the first woman? Certainly not Chavah because she was produced from<br />
Ahdahm’s bones and flesh while the Hebrew text in Genesis 1:27 says the following:<br />
<span style="font-size: large;">VAYE-VRAH ELOHIM ET HA-AHDAHM BETZALMO-BETZELEM ELOHIM BARA</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">OTO ZACHAR VENEKEYVAH BARA OTAM.</span><br />
Gen 1:27 So Elohim created ha’Ahdahm in His own image, in the image of<br />
Elohim He created him; <u>male and female He created them</u>. The AHDAHM<br />
produced a male and female.<br />
So if he created them both then both were created from the earth while if you<br />
remember Chava was not created from the earth but created from Adam. My point is<br />
made that the first two humans were made from the earth which indicates there were<br />
two women in the garden and not one as most have believed so what happened to<br />
the original woman created from the earth along with the Ahdahm?<br />
The idea that Adam had a wife prior to Eve is developed from an interpretation of the<br />
Book of Genesis and its dual creation accounts; while Genesis 2:21-25 describes<br />
Yahuwah's creation of Eve from Adam's rib, an earlier passage, 1:27, already indicates<br />
that a woman had been made: "So Yahuwah created man in his own image, in the<br />
image of Yahuwah created he him; male and female created he them." The chronology<br />
of the text places Eve's creation after Yahuwah's words in Genesis 2:18 that "it is not<br />
good for man to be alone" BECAUSE LILETH HAD ALREADY GONE HER OWN WAY BY<br />
REFUSING TO BE WITH ADAM, EVEN THOUGH SHE HAD NOT YET LEFT THE GARDEN!<br />
Back in Genesis 1:27 Yahuwah forms Lilith out of the clay from which he made Adam<br />
but she and Adam bicker. Lilith claims that since she and Adam were created in the<br />
same way they were equal and she refuses to submit to him:<br />
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ATTACK ON PATRIACRHY RIGHT OFF THE BAT! </div>
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The first matriarchal spirit-rebellion uprising. We see how polygyny saved Ahdahm along with procreating the entire human race. So we see clearly into the spirit world and why s.a.tan so hates plural<br />
marriage and has marked it for oblivion. It was through plural marriage provision that<br />
the human race was procreated and by which we have ALL come into being!! It is that<br />
image of YHWH upon us that s.a.tan so wants to destroy (John 10:10)! It is through<br />
Eve Adam’s second wife and Lilith’s sister wife that Yahushua is born. Then again In<br />
Matthew 1:1 Yahshua is born through Abraham and David’s lineage, both polygynists;<br />
obviously s.a.tan has deceived billions through the years to hate this institution, so he<br />
can dirty the handiwork and means by which Yahuwah entered the human race.<br />
This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that Elohim created man, in the<br />
likeness of Elohim made he him; 2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them,<br />
and called their name Adam, in the [same] day when they were created. 3 And Adam...begat a<br />
son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth. —Genesis 5:1-3<br />
(If Adam had 2 wives how many did his image-Seth have? Two!)<br />
We see another confirmation that wife # 1 was made from EARTH not later but<br />
the same day Adam came from earth! Second witness! Eve was NOT created the<br />
same time but later! Wife # 1 was created on day 6. Genesis 1:31. Then Elohim<br />
rested on the Shabbat 7th day Genesis 2:1-3. So what day was Eve made?<br />
Probably the day after Shabbat, or Yom Rishon a new wife on the new week.<br />
Genesis 2:18 and 20-23! There is an outside chance that the rib removal was not<br />
a new work and would not be classified as work and as Adam celebrated his first<br />
Shabbat that during Shabbat sleep YHWH brought forth Eve, just like today a<br />
baby can be born on Shabbat without the parents breaking the Shabbat. Either<br />
scenario works well.<br />
Now note Adam’s literal words in verse 23! Now THIS IS MORE LIKE IT! In other<br />
words, unlike Lilith from the earth, Eve is bone from his bone and flesh from his<br />
flesh! In the Hebrew he exclaims the contrast between wife # 1’s origin and wife<br />
# 2’s origin!<br />
After Yahuwah created Adam, who was alone, He said, 'It is not good for man to be<br />
alone.' He then created a woman for Adam, from the earth, as He had created Adam<br />
himself, and called her Lilith. Adam and Lilith immediately began to fight. She said, 'I<br />
will not lie below,' and he said, 'I will not lie beneath you, but only on top. For you are<br />
fit only to be in the bottom position, while I am to be the superior one.' Lilith<br />
responded, 'We are equal to each other inasmuch as we were both created from the<br />
earth on the same sixth day.' But they would not listen to one another. When Lilith<br />
saw this, she pronounced the Ineffable Name Yahuwah and flew away into the air.<br />
In Isaiah 34:14 we have a pretty clear reference to this first wife named Lilith in<br />
Hebrew, the root word being NIGHT-DARKNESS. Her exile from Eden is referenced:<br />
14 The wild beasts of the desert shall also meet in it with the wild beasts of the island, and the<br />
billy-goats shall call to each other; the [definite article] night creature (LILIETH) also shall<br />
rest there, and find for herself a place of rest. Verse 6 refers to Bozrah-Iraq the land where<br />
the Tigris and Euphrates meet, the possible outer parts of the Garden of Eden.<br />
This is why Yahuwah WARNED the second wife not to follow in the way of the first wife.<br />
See the warning to the second wife in Genesis 3:16! This very warning indicates that<br />
another event had taken place with the first woman, so that YHWH and Adam both<br />
already knew that woman’s natural desire is to control, manipulate and emaciate the man.<br />
She (Eve) and all women after her must battle and overcome this natural evil inclination<br />
or the Yetzer Harah. Once the truth of the first wife disappeared, s.a.tan was free to<br />
propagate the myth that monogamy is the original perfect pattern. Monogamy was not<br />
only not perfect, see Lilith’s example, but it was not the original pattern, as there were 2<br />
women in the Garden at the same time. One left one stayed. One from the ground called<br />
or part of The Adam who became Lilith, the other from the rib and became Chavah. Let’s<br />
look at Matthew 19 to PROVE that one man one woman was NOT the original pattern<br />
and NOT His perfect will. His perfect will differs from family to family and must be<br />
individually sought, not based on some myth called the perfect will of one man for one<br />
woman. That’s a lie we have all bought into at one time. Matthew19:3-10. We read this<br />
carefully and see that the issue is not the original pattern but the issue of divorce. Rather<br />
than establish monogamy it honors ALL marriage and forbids divorce on demand! Still<br />
with me!<br />
Legend says-Adam stood in prayer before his Creator: 'Rebonon shel olam-Sovereign<br />
of the universe!' he said, 'the woman you gave me has run away and rebelled.' At<br />
once, the Holy One, blessed be He, sent these three angels Senoy, Sansenoy, and<br />
Semangelof, to bring her back.<br />
Said the Holy One to Adam, 'If she agrees to come back, what is made is good. If not,<br />
she must permit one hundred of her children to die every day.' The angels left<br />
Yahuwah and pursued Lilith, whom they overtook in the midst of the sea, in the<br />
mighty waters wherein the Egyptians were destined to drown. They told her<br />
Yahuwah's word, but she did not wish to return. The angels said, 'We shall drown you<br />
in the sea.’<br />
'Leave me!' she said. 'I was created only to cause sickness to infants. If the infant is<br />
male, I have dominion over him for eight days after his birth, and if female, for twenty<br />
days.’<br />
When the angels heard Lilith's words, they insisted she go back. But she swore to<br />
them by the name of the living and eternal Yahuwah: 'Whenever I see you or your<br />
names or your forms in an amulet, I will have no power over that infant.' She also<br />
agreed to have one hundred of her children die every day. Accordingly, every day one<br />
hundred demons perish, and for the same reason, we write the angels' names on the<br />
amulets of young children. When Lilith sees their names, she remembers her oath, and<br />
the child recovers.<br />
Another account<br />
Lilith with Adam in the Garden of Eden<br />
In some old Judeo-Christian traditions, Lilith was the original wife of Adam. She was<br />
offended when he attempted to have her lie beneath him during sexual intercourse, and<br />
would not meet his request. Comment!<br />
She demanded equality with Adam, because they were created together in the image of<br />
Elohim. When equality was refused her, she left in anger and made her home in caves on the<br />
shores of the Red Sea, taking demons as lovers.<br />
Adam complained to Elohim, who sent three angels (named Sanvi, Sansanvi, and<br />
Semangelaf) to bring her back to Eden.<br />
The angels ordered her to return, threatening that they would kill her children if she didn't<br />
go back. Exclaiming that even this was better than returning to submission, she refused.<br />
The angels carried out their threat. Elohim created a second wife for Adam- the docile Eve.<br />
Lilith was written out of the Bible along the way by one of the many, many translators."<br />
Close-The original pattern, to be even more precise, was not monogamy or plural but<br />
PATRIARCHY: we know this because…<br />
1. Genesis 2:18, which tells us that the woman was made “for (the man).”<br />
2. Genesis 2:21-23, which tells us that the woman was made from the man.<br />
3. The temporal sequence of the creation of the man and woman.<br />
4. Adam’s naming authority and his naming of woman, both in her generic and personal aspect.<br />
5. Elohim’s act of bringing the woman unto the man and the man to the woman.<br />
6. The name of “Adam” itself.<br />
1 Corinthians 11:8-10 Read. Comment.<br /><div class="blogger-post-footer">Yeshayahu 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man,
saying, “We shall eat our own food and wear our own clothes;
only let us be called by your name, to take away our reproach.”
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